strange rash on a 10-month old. please help!

Our son Josh is having a rash that's even strange to the doctor. Basically,
he got a rash two days after taking antibiotics for the first time
(Amoxicilin). The rash looks like red small dots (see photos in the web page
below). We stopped the antibiotics and it gradually reduced over 3 days.
Then it came back again, stronger. Right now the doc not sure whether it's
allergy to antibiotics or not, since it should not restart. And virus
usually don't come back like this either.

Could you help us please? We'll probably go to see an allergy specialist
tomorrow if he won't get any better (he's on Benadryl now). The rash itself
seems not bothing the Josh. What we concern most is that we might be
overlooking something more serious. The following is a complete description
of his illness history and any related information we could think of, which
can also be found on the webpage we created, along with photos.

Thank you very much in advance!

Cathy and Will
please post or reply to:

this webpage has photos and descriptions:
http://131.247.137.56/rash/

Detailed info below:

He is 10 months old, weights 18 lbs and started daycare a month ago, in an
infant room with 5 other kids (all under age of 1), taken care most of the
time by two teachers. He had a stuffy nose on and off for 20 days. Then he
got fever on Monday night (11/24, 101.7F under arm, reduced by Tyleno). Went
to see Doc Tuesday (11/25) and was put on antibiotic (Amoxicilin). He took
them noon time and dinner time. Tuesday night still got fever (102, reduced
by Tyleno). Wed took anti; Wed night didn't since he throwed up the
medicine. No fever that night. Thursday morning (11/27) we noticed rash (not
ichy), only under clothes and inside diaper (see photo). Called Doc on duty
and was told probably viral infection and keep taking anti. Took anti in the
morning and dinner time. Rash worsened next day and speading to whole body,
legs and arms, even face (Friday (11/28). Called again, same Doc on duty and
told to stop anti and wait to see if disappear in 48 hours. Slowly fading by
Sunday afternoon. Monday (Dec.1) was ok so he was in daycare, by evening
time rash came back, starting all over the body (see photo). Went to see Doc
next day (Tuesday 12/2) and put on Benadryl, suspecting anti induced allergy
but not sure, since they seldom restart. He took Benadryl (1/2 tsp) noon,
5pm, 9pm and 3am. 12/3 morning notice rash reduced in the trunk area but
increased in the legs and arms. Called Doc again and was told to keep
medication.

He has been breastfed and started last month on formula (Similac Advance).
Regular food including oatmeal cereal, canned baby food (Gerber, fruit,
vegi, chicken etc), banana, and sometimes very small amount of fish and
shrimp (chewed up by mom) mixed with cereal. Nothing special was introduced
during this time as far as we could tell. We live in Florida and his daily
routine is pretty much daycare and home (apartment). He started walking
about 2 weeks ago and can take several steps by himself alone. He's got 2
fully out teeth (up and down) and two more showing up just now. I have full
resolution pictures if you need them (3mb resolution). Thank you very much.

"C Du" wrote in message
. ..

Our son Josh is having a rash that's even strange to the doctor.
Basically,
he got a rash two days after taking antibiotics for the first time
(Amoxicilin). The rash looks like red small dots (see photos in the
web page
below). We stopped the antibiotics and it gradually reduced over 3
days.
Then it came back again, stronger. Right now the doc not sure whether
it's
allergy to antibiotics or not, since it should not restart. And virus
usually don't come back like this either.

Could you help us please? We'll probably go to see an allergy
specialist
tomorrow if he won't get any better (he's on Benadryl now). The rash
itself
seems not bothing the Josh. What we concern most is that we might be
overlooking something more serious. The following is a complete
description
of his illness history and any related information we could think of,
which
can also be found on the webpage we created, along with photos.

I'm not a doctor, but given Josh's age and the pattern you've described
(fever, followed by a non-itchy rash that spreads), roseola (a virus)
came to mind. No doubt many other things could cause the same symptoms
(and it's probable your physician considered roseola, which, common as
it is, shouldn't be "strange" to a pediatrician). Good luck tracking
down the cause!

"C Du" wrote in message
. ..
Our son Josh is having a rash that's even strange to the doctor.
Basically,
he got a rash two days after taking antibiotics for the first time
(Amoxicilin). The rash looks like red small dots (see photos in the web
page
below). We stopped the antibiotics and it gradually reduced over 3 days.
Then it came back again, stronger. Right now the doc not sure whether it's
allergy to antibiotics or not, since it should not restart. And virus
usually don't come back like this either.

Could you help us please? We'll probably go to see an allergy specialist
tomorrow if he won't get any better (he's on Benadryl now). The rash
itself
seems not bothing the Josh. What we concern most is that we might be
overlooking something more serious. The following is a complete
description
of his illness history and any related information we could think of,
which
can also be found on the webpage we created, along with photos.

Thank you very much in advance!

Cathy and Will
please post or reply to:

this webpage has photos and descriptions:
http://131.247.137.56/rash/

That looks EXACTLY like the rashes I've seen in response to antibiotics when
there was an allergy. I know that the rashes can come about days after
starting the drugs, even after the child seems to be tolerating it well.
Have you tried Benadryl for the symptoms of the rash? I'd stay away from
the antibiotics, have the pediatrician make a note in his chart and move on.

Don't stress, it really looks like an allergic reaction to me.

- Jen

Ok, just read the details of the post, not sure why I missed them the first
time around. Why did they doctor put him on antibiotics with just a fever?
Also, isn't it the virus that canNOT be treated with antibiotics? Am I all
mixed up here?


"C Du" wrote in message
. ..
Our son Josh is having a rash that's even strange to the doctor.
Basically,
he got a rash two days after taking antibiotics for the first time
(Amoxicilin). The rash looks like red small dots (see photos in the web
page
below). We stopped the antibiotics and it gradually reduced over 3 days.
Then it came back again, stronger. Right now the doc not sure whether it's
allergy to antibiotics or not, since it should not restart. And virus
usually don't come back like this either.

Could you help us please? We'll probably go to see an allergy specialist
tomorrow if he won't get any better (he's on Benadryl now). The rash
itself
seems not bothing the Josh. What we concern most is that we might be
overlooking something more serious. The following is a complete
description
of his illness history and any related information we could think of,
which
can also be found on the webpage we created, along with photos.

Thank you very much in advance!

Cathy and Will
please post or reply to:

this webpage has photos and descriptions:
http://131.247.137.56/rash/

Detailed info below:

He is 10 months old, weights 18 lbs and started daycare a month ago, in an
infant room with 5 other kids (all under age of 1), taken care most of the
time by two teachers. He had a stuffy nose on and off for 20 days. Then he
got fever on Monday night (11/24, 101.7F under arm, reduced by Tyleno).
Went
to see Doc Tuesday (11/25) and was put on antibiotic (Amoxicilin). He took
them noon time and dinner time. Tuesday night still got fever (102,
reduced
by Tyleno). Wed took anti; Wed night didn't since he throwed up the
medicine. No fever that night. Thursday morning (11/27) we noticed rash
(not
ichy), only under clothes and inside diaper (see photo). Called Doc on
duty
and was told probably viral infection and keep taking anti. Took anti in
the
morning and dinner time. Rash worsened next day and speading to whole
body,
legs and arms, even face (Friday (11/28). Called again, same Doc on duty
and
told to stop anti and wait to see if disappear in 48 hours. Slowly fading
by
Sunday afternoon. Monday (Dec.1) was ok so he was in daycare, by evening
time rash came back, starting all over the body (see photo). Went to see
Doc
next day (Tuesday 12/2) and put on Benadryl, suspecting anti induced
allergy
but not sure, since they seldom restart. He took Benadryl (1/2 tsp) noon,
5pm, 9pm and 3am. 12/3 morning notice rash reduced in the trunk area but
increased in the legs and arms. Called Doc again and was told to keep
medication.

He has been breastfed and started last month on formula (Similac Advance).
Regular food including oatmeal cereal, canned baby food (Gerber, fruit,
vegi, chicken etc), banana, and sometimes very small amount of fish and
shrimp (chewed up by mom) mixed with cereal. Nothing special was
introduced
during this time as far as we could tell. We live in Florida and his daily
routine is pretty much daycare and home (apartment). He started walking
about 2 weeks ago and can take several steps by himself alone. He's got 2
fully out teeth (up and down) and two more showing up just now. I have
full
resolution pictures if you need them (3mb resolution). Thank you very
much.

"C Du" wrote in message
. ..
Our son Josh is having a rash that's even strange to the doctor.
Basically,
he got a rash two days after taking antibiotics for the first time
(Amoxicilin). The rash looks like red small dots (see photos in the web
page
below). We stopped the antibiotics and it gradually reduced over 3 days.
Then it came back again, stronger. Right now the doc not sure whether it's
allergy to antibiotics or not, since it should not restart. And virus
usually don't come back like this either.

Could you help us please? We'll probably go to see an allergy specialist
tomorrow if he won't get any better (he's on Benadryl now). The rash
itself
seems not bothing the Josh. What we concern most is that we might be
overlooking something more serious. The following is a complete
description
of his illness history and any related information we could think of,
which
can also be found on the webpage we created, along with photos.

Thank you very much in advance!

Cathy and Will
please post or reply to:

this webpage has photos and descriptions:
http://131.247.137.56/rash/

That looks EXACTLY like the rashes I've seen in response to antibiotics when
there was an allergy. I know that the rashes can come about days after
starting the drugs, even after the child seems to be tolerating it well.
Have you tried Benadryl for the symptoms of the rash? I'd stay away from
the antibiotics, have the pediatrician make a note in his chart and move on.

Don't stress, it really looks like an allergic reaction to me.

- Jen

JG wrote:
"C Du" wrote in message
. ..


Our son Josh is having a rash that's even strange to the doctor.

Basically,

he got a rash two days after taking antibiotics for the first time
(Amoxicilin). The rash looks like red small dots (see photos in the

web page

below). We stopped the antibiotics and it gradually reduced over 3

days.

Then it came back again, stronger. Right now the doc not sure whether

it's

allergy to antibiotics or not, since it should not restart. And virus
usually don't come back like this either.


Could you help us please? We'll probably go to see an allergy

specialist

tomorrow if he won't get any better (he's on Benadryl now). The rash

itself

seems not bothing the Josh. What we concern most is that we might be
overlooking something more serious. The following is a complete

description

of his illness history and any related information we could think of,

which

can also be found on the webpage we created, along with photos.


I'm not a doctor, but given Josh's age and the pattern you've described
(fever, followed by a non-itchy rash that spreads), roseola (a virus)
came to mind

Why would roseola reoccur after the normal 3 days?

Doc put him on antibiotics was because that "he was losing the battle ...
after fighting it over 20 days"

I mentioned that he got stuffy nose for a long time and the doc finally
caved in to put him on anti.

I just called a friend of mine who is a doctor and she said it's most likely
allergy to amoxicilin. One of her nurse got same thing after 3 days and it
re-occurred many times over a period of 15 days and finally after it went
through the whole body, it disappeared.

I guess Josh is on the same track... I hope it won't take that long...

*sigh*

Yes he's on Benadryl. But I was told that it's not a strong enough medicine
for allergy (antihistimin type). There's another type but unfortunately my
doctor friend is not American. The Chinese term is "pu er min" or "puremin",
whatever that is... anybody got any ideas? It's not a histamin blocker type.

Thanks much!

Will

PS Doc said it's not likely roseola since it resurfaced. It's not Rocky
Mountain Spot Fever either (I came across this on net since picture looks
like that) since we are in Florida and I haven't even taken him into any
kinds of woods, yet.

"New York Jen" wrote in message
t...
Ok, just read the details of the post, not sure why I missed them the
first
time around. Why did they doctor put him on antibiotics with just a
fever?
Also, isn't it the virus that canNOT be treated with antibiotics? Am I
all
mixed up here?


"C Du" wrote in message
. ..
Our son Josh is having a rash that's even strange to the doctor.
Basically,
he got a rash two days after taking antibiotics for the first time
(Amoxicilin). The rash looks like red small dots (see photos in the web
page
below). We stopped the antibiotics and it gradually reduced over 3 days.
Then it came back again, stronger. Right now the doc not sure whether
it's
allergy to antibiotics or not, since it should not restart. And virus
usually don't come back like this either.

Could you help us please? We'll probably go to see an allergy specialist
tomorrow if he won't get any better (he's on Benadryl now). The rash
itself
seems not bothing the Josh. What we concern most is that we might be
overlooking something more serious. The following is a complete
description
of his illness history and any related information we could think of,
which
can also be found on the webpage we created, along with photos.

Thank you very much in advance!

Cathy and Will
please post or reply to:

this webpage has photos and descriptions:
http://131.247.137.56/rash/

Detailed info below:

He is 10 months old, weights 18 lbs and started daycare a month ago, in
an
infant room with 5 other kids (all under age of 1), taken care most of
the
time by two teachers. He had a stuffy nose on and off for 20 days. Then
he
got fever on Monday night (11/24, 101.7F under arm, reduced by Tyleno).
Went
to see Doc Tuesday (11/25) and was put on antibiotic (Amoxicilin). He
took
them noon time and dinner time. Tuesday night still got fever (102,
reduced
by Tyleno). Wed took anti; Wed night didn't since he throwed up the
medicine. No fever that night. Thursday morning (11/27) we noticed rash
(not
ichy), only under clothes and inside diaper (see photo). Called Doc on
duty
and was told probably viral infection and keep taking anti. Took anti in
the
morning and dinner time. Rash worsened next day and speading to whole
body,
legs and arms, even face (Friday (11/28). Called again, same Doc on duty
and
told to stop anti and wait to see if disappear in 48 hours. Slowly
fading
by
Sunday afternoon. Monday (Dec.1) was ok so he was in daycare, by evening
time rash came back, starting all over the body (see photo). Went to see
Doc
next day (Tuesday 12/2) and put on Benadryl, suspecting anti induced
allergy
but not sure, since they seldom restart. He took Benadryl (1/2 tsp)
noon,
5pm, 9pm and 3am. 12/3 morning notice rash reduced in the trunk area but
increased in the legs and arms. Called Doc again and was told to keep
medication.

He has been breastfed and started last month on formula (Similac
Advance).
Regular food including oatmeal cereal, canned baby food (Gerber, fruit,
vegi, chicken etc), banana, and sometimes very small amount of fish and
shrimp (chewed up by mom) mixed with cereal. Nothing special was
introduced
during this time as far as we could tell. We live in Florida and his
daily
routine is pretty much daycare and home (apartment). He started walking
about 2 weeks ago and can take several steps by himself alone. He's got
2
fully out teeth (up and down) and two more showing up just now. I have
full
resolution pictures if you need them (3mb resolution). Thank you very
much.

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Thank you very much in advance!

Cathy and Will

The starting of eczema ?
That is how my dd's eczema started out and it got worse ....
just my thought ....

Nic

"New York Jen" wrote in message news:sYwzb.21639
That looks EXACTLY like the rashes I've seen in response to antibiotics when
there was an allergy. I know that the rashes can come about days after
starting the drugs, even after the child seems to be tolerating it well.
Have you tried Benadryl for the symptoms of the rash? I'd stay away from
the antibiotics, have the pediatrician make a note in his chart and move
on.

Don't stress, it really looks like an allergic reaction to me.


That's what it looks like to me too. I just recently had a rash in reaction
to an allergy to antibiotics. Looks the same.

esther

"C Du" wrote in message
...
I just called a friend of mine who is a doctor and she said it's most
likely
allergy to amoxicilin. One of her nurse got same thing after 3 days and it
re-occurred many times over a period of 15 days and finally after it went
through the whole body, it disappeared.

Same thing recently happened to me in. I took claritin and the rash stopped
at my neck. After I stopped the clartin the rash came back this time it was
neck and face and lower extremities.

Yes he's on Benadryl. But I was told that it's not a strong enough
medicine
for allergy (antihistimin type). There's another type but unfortunately my
doctor friend is not American. The Chinese term is "pu er min" or
"puremin",
whatever that is... anybody got any ideas? It's not a histamin blocker
type.

I'm guessing that the Chinese name is probably an Chinese-ized
pronounciation of the English name. Try looking at drugstore.com for names.
But do you really want to give a baby anything stronger than benadryl?

esther