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Organic milk / hormone free milk
I buy organic milk because I don't like the idea of hormone-fed cows.
However now I see in the stores that some of the regular "non-organic" milk marked as "no hormones". Does anyone know what the difference is between these two categories? We don't use other organic foods; just milk. Thanks. |
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I think another difference is antibiotic use. --Beth Kevles -THE-COM-HERE http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the GMAIL one if you would like me to reply. |
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On Dec 12, 4:09 pm, enigma wrote:
wrote oups.com: I buy organic milk because I don't like the idea of hormone-fed cows. However now I see in the stores that some of the regular "non-organic" milk marked as "no hormones". Does anyone know what the difference is between these two categories? in order to be labelled 'organic, the cows must have been born to mothers who were fed certified organic feed, & they must be fed certified organic feed exclusively. they should not be receiving growth hormones or antibiotics (if a cow needs antibiotics for an illness her milk is not allowed to be mixed with the other cows in the bulk tanks until 2 weeks after the end of the antibiotic treatment). in theory, organic milk cows must also be given free access to grass pasture. in practice, Horizon Organics (the largest "organic" milk producer in the US) keep their milkers in a confinement barn, in the desert, with no outside access or fresh grass... but because they are run by an agribuisiness with lobbyists & all, they apparently get to thumb their noses at true organic standards. We don't use other organic foods; just milk. why just milk? organically grown produce is widely available & priced on par with imported, treated with who-knows-what- chemicals-banned-in-the-US produce. and if you aren't vegetarian, your meat is a hell of a lot worse as far as hormones & antibiotics than your milk is! not to mention the saline & chemicals injected into it to keep it "shelf-stable" for a month... lee We are vegetarian. I have two daughters and I don't like to give them the hormone -fed-cows' milk. I haven't read much about the subject but figured organic milk is the way to go. Thanks for your reply. |
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WE THINK about the overindulgence and gift-giving excess every holiday season, yet we can't help ourselves: There's just too much joy in presenting a present to someone special at this time of the year. With a focus on environmental responsibility and global good will, we gathered gift suggestions that might nudge us to do a small part. Some are eco-friendly and organic while others help empower a struggling community or raise funds for a charity. Buy Organic Babies ( free postage UK ) The perfect CHRISTMAS GIFT http://www.americanvistas.com/christmas_shopping.html Merry Christmas AmericanVistas.com On Dec 13, 9:11 am, wrote: On Dec 12, 4:09 pm, enigma wrote: wrote oups.com: I buy organic milk because I don't like the idea of hormone-fed cows. However now I see in the stores that some of the regular "non-organic" milk marked as "no hormones". Does anyone know what the difference is between these two categories? in order to be labelled 'organic, the cows must have been born to mothers who were fed certified organic feed, & they must be fed certified organic feed exclusively. they should not be receiving growth hormones or antibiotics (if a cow needs antibiotics for an illness her milk is not allowed to be mixed with the other cows in the bulk tanks until 2 weeks after the end of the antibiotic treatment). in theory, organic milk cows must also be given free access to grass pasture. in practice, Horizon Organics (the largest "organic" milk producer in the US) keep their milkers in a confinement barn, in the desert, with no outside access or fresh grass... but because they are run by an agribuisiness with lobbyists & all, they apparently get to thumb their noses at true organic standards. We don't use other organic foods; just milk. why just milk? organically grown produce is widely available & priced on par with imported, treated with who-knows-what- chemicals-banned-in-the-US produce. and if you aren't vegetarian, your meat is a hell of a lot worse as far as hormones & antibiotics than your milk is! not to mention the saline & chemicals injected into it to keep it "shelf-stable" for a month... lee We are vegetarian. I have two daughters and I don't like to give them the hormone -fed-cows' milk. I haven't read much about the subject but figured organic milk is the way to go. Thanks for your reply.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Dec 12, 5:09 pm, enigma wrote:
snip why just milk? organically grown produce is widely available & priced on par with imported, treated with who-knows-what- chemicals-banned-in-the-US produce. and if you aren't vegetarian, your meat is a hell of a lot worse as far as hormones & antibiotics than your milk is! not to mention the saline & chemicals injected into it to keep it "shelf-stable" for a month... lee With all these alleged problems, life expectancy in the U.S. is now about 78 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lifexpec.htm and has been rising over the years . I have never seen a convincing study showing that organic food is healthier. I think the organic food movement fulfills needs that are mostly psychological. On the subject of milk, I place no value on the "organic" label, but I do wonder when my kids should start drinking skim (fat-free) milk like their parents, rather than whole milk. Right now the two boys (2 and 4yo) are a bit skinny, so we are continuing with whole milk. |
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:53:24 -0800 (PST), Beliavsky
wrote: On the subject of milk, I place no value on the "organic" label, but I do wonder when my kids should start drinking skim (fat-free) milk like their parents, rather than whole milk. Right now the two boys (2 and 4yo) are a bit skinny, so we are continuing with whole milk. Children need more fat than adults at least until they are 2 or 3, as I understand it. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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regarding whole milk... It turns out that the fat is where the hormones hang out. I read an interesting article - I wish I could remember where - that compared hormone levels in children who drink milk from "traditional" cows (my terminology) with those who drink milk from "modern" cows. Traditional cows are defined to be those who are milked only after producing a calf, and then stop being milked when their calf weans, and then are milked again when they have another calf. Modern cows are those who have one calf and then are milked continuously thereafter, and are the norm on modern American "factory" farms. Anyway, the kids who drank whole milk from modern cows had much higher hormone levels (I think they were measuring estrogen) than kids in other groups. The study was a preliminary one and was conducted on children in, perhaps Tibet? The researcher involved was very eager to return to conduct further studies to get at what was really going on, since many variables were NOT controlled for in the preliminary one. If you want to look the article up, I'd guess I read it in either The New Yorker or else the New York Times Sunday magazine. It was interesting. --Beth Kevles -THE-COM-HERE http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the GMAIL one if you would like me to reply. |
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"toto" wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:53:24 -0800 (PST), Beliavsky wrote: On the subject of milk, I place no value on the "organic" label, but I do wonder when my kids should start drinking skim (fat-free) milk like their parents, rather than whole milk. Right now the two boys (2 and 4yo) are a bit skinny, so we are continuing with whole milk. Children need more fat than adults at least until they are 2 or 3, as I understand it. UK guidelines a Not cows milk until age 1 year Full fat until age 2 years Can use semiskinned at 2 years Can use skimmed milk at 5 years. Recommended semiskinned from age 5years (rather than full fat) unless there are health/weight issues (either way). Debbie |
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