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Old November 21st 06, 11:32 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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The narcotic drug Ritalin

That's as far as you have to read before dismissing the bull**** and
getting on with something useful.


Don't you ever get tired of lying?


Narcotic drug means that it is a drug related to morphine. Ritalin is not
related to morphine.

Jeff

Fact: Ritalin is closely related to COCAINE


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Old November 22nd 06, 12:58 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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Old November 22nd 06, 02:28 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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"Jan Drew" wrote:

The narcotic drug Ritalin

That's as far as you have to read before dismissing the bull**** and
getting on with something useful.

Don't you ever get tired of lying?


Narcotic drug means that it is a drug related to morphine. Ritalin is not
related to morphine.

Jeff

Fact: Ritalin is closely related to COCAINE


Yet, it doesn't cause addiction when taken as directed.

Jeff


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Old November 22nd 06, 03:22 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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The narcotic drug Ritalin

(Main Entry: 1nar·cot·ic
Pronunciation: när-'kät-ik
Function: noun )


That's as far as you have to read before dismissing the bull**** and
getting on with something useful.

Don't you ever get tired of lying?

Narcotic drug means that it is a drug related to morphine. Ritalin is not
related to morphine.

(1 : a drug (as opium) that in moderate doses dulls the senses,
relieves
pain, and induces profound sleep but in excessive doses causes stupor,
coma, or convulsions )


Jeff

Fact: Ritalin is closely related to COCAINE

(2 : a drug (as marijuana or LSD) subject to restriction similar to
that
of addictive narcotics ... )

Yet, it doesn't cause addiction when taken as directed.

( ... whether in fact physiologically addictive and
narcotic or not

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...rcotic&x=0&y=0

Hm. ... )

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Old November 22nd 06, 03:33 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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"Jan Drew" wrote:

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The narcotic drug Ritalin

(Main Entry: 1nar·cot·ic
Pronunciation: när-'kät-ik
Function: noun )


That's as far as you have to read before dismissing the bull**** and
getting on with something useful.

Don't you ever get tired of lying?

Narcotic drug means that it is a drug related to morphine. Ritalin is
not
related to morphine.

(1 : a drug (as opium) that in moderate doses dulls the senses,
relieves
pain, and induces profound sleep but in excessive doses causes stupor,
coma, or convulsions )

This does not describe Ritalin.


Jeff

Fact: Ritalin is closely related to COCAINE

(2 : a drug (as marijuana or LSD) subject to restriction similar to
that
of addictive narcotics ... )

Yet, it doesn't cause addiction when taken as directed.

( ... whether in fact physiologically addictive and
narcotic or not

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...rcotic&x=0&y=0

Hm. ... )


Ritalin is a schedule 2 drug, not a schedule 1 drug as are LSD and
Marijuana.

Jeff


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Old November 22nd 06, 04:21 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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Jeff wrote:
"Raving" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:
"Jan Drew" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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"Jan Drew" wrote in message
om...

"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
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"Jan Drew" wrote:

(** Message** to self: Have I been KF'd ... )

The narcotic drug Ritalin

(Main Entry: 1nar·cot·ic
Pronunciation: när-'kät-ik
Function: noun )


That's as far as you have to read before dismissing the bull**** and
getting on with something useful.

Don't you ever get tired of lying?

Narcotic drug means that it is a drug related to morphine. Ritalin is
not
related to morphine.

(1 : a drug (as opium) that in moderate doses dulls the senses,
relieves
pain, and induces profound sleep but in excessive doses causes stupor,
coma, or convulsions )

This does not describe Ritalin.


Jeff
Fact: Ritalin is closely related to COCAINE

(2 : a drug (as marijuana or LSD) subject to restriction similar to
that of addictive narcotics ... )

Yet drugs such as ...
* Most pure opioid agonists: Pethidine (INN) or Meperidine (USAN),
Fentanyl, Hydromorphone, Opium, Oxycodone (the main ingredient in
Percocet and OxyContin), or Morphine;

... are Schedule II drugs as are ...

* Cocaine (used as a topical anaesthetic);
* Methylphenidate (Ritalin);
* Phencyclidine (PCP);
* Short-acting barbiturates, such as secobarbital;

See below ...

[Quoting ... ]

Schedule II drugs

Findings required:

(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical
use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical
use with severe restrictions.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe
psychological or physical dependence.

These drugs are only available by prescription, and distribution is
carefully controlled and monitored by the DEA. Oral prescriptions are
not allowed except in emergencies, and no refills are allowed. Also,
Schedule II drugs are subject to production quotas set by the DEA.

Drugs on this schedule include:

* Cocaine (used as a topical anaesthetic);

* Methylphenidate (Ritalin);

* Phencyclidine (PCP);

* Most pure opioid agonists: Pethidine (INN) or Meperidine (USAN),
Fentanyl, Hydromorphone, Opium, Oxycodone (the main ingredient in
Percocet and OxyContin), or Morphine;

* Short-acting barbiturates, such as secobarbital;

* Amphetamine was originally placed in Schedule III, but was moved
to Schedule II in 1971. Injectable methamphetamine has always been in
Schedule II;


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control...edule_II_drugs



Yet, it doesn't cause addiction when taken as directed.

( ... whether in fact physiologically addictive and
narcotic or not

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...rcotic&x=0&y=0

Hm. ... )


Ritalin is a schedule 2 drug, not a schedule 1 drug as are LSD and
Marijuana.

Moreover ...

[Quoting ...
Cannabis (includes tetrahydrocannibinols found in marijuana, hashish,
and hashish oil). Cannabis has legal medical uses in some countries and
U.S. states. Consequently, some controversy exists about its placement
in Schedule I. Main article: Cannabis rescheduling in the United
States; ... end quote]

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control...edule_II_drugs
again

Also ...

"TORONTO, Ontario (Reuters) -- The use of medical marijuana has given
two Toronto professors the right to something that many students could
only dream of -- access to specially ventilated rooms where they can
indulge in peace.

The two, at the esteemed University of Toronto and at York University
to the north of the city, suffer from chronic medical conditions that
some doctors say can be eased by smoking marijuana. They are among
nearly 1,500 Canadians who have won the right to use the drug for
health reasons.

Using human rights legislation, the two petitioned their employers for
the right to light up in the workplace. They faced a legal struggle,
but the universities eventually agreed.

"Without the medication, I am disabled and I'm not able to carry out
meaningful and valuable, productive work," said York University
criminology professor Brian MacLean, who suffers from a severe form of
degenerative arthritis. ... "

http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=15870

======================

Fact is that Ritalin is classified as a Schedule II narcotic.

Many of the highly addictive opiates are Schedule II narcotics.
Ritalin, cocaine, and Amphetamine are also Schedule II narcotics.

As for schedule I drugs such as marijuana ?

...

Moreover, I hear that there is some discussion with respect to bringing
LSD back into therapeutic usage.

If you wish to argue with Jan, go for it. .. Shrug.

I don't intend to take sides in this circus. It would seem that there
are some pertinent and empty considerations on both sides of the
debate.

It's not monolithic, one way or the other.

Cordially,

Raving

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Old November 22nd 06, 05:11 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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"Raving" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:
"Raving" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:
"Jan Drew" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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"Jan Drew" wrote in message
om...

"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
...
"Jan Drew" wrote:

(** Message** to self: Have I been KF'd ... )

The narcotic drug Ritalin

(Main Entry: 1nar·cot·ic
Pronunciation: när-'kät-ik
Function: noun )


That's as far as you have to read before dismissing the bull****
and
getting on with something useful.

Don't you ever get tired of lying?

Narcotic drug means that it is a drug related to morphine. Ritalin is
not
related to morphine.

(1 : a drug (as opium) that in moderate doses dulls the senses,
relieves
pain, and induces profound sleep but in excessive doses causes stupor,
coma, or convulsions )

This does not describe Ritalin.


Jeff
Fact: Ritalin is closely related to COCAINE

(2 : a drug (as marijuana or LSD) subject to restriction similar to
that of addictive narcotics ... )

Yet drugs such as ...
* Most pure opioid agonists: Pethidine (INN) or Meperidine (USAN),
Fentanyl, Hydromorphone, Opium, Oxycodone (the main ingredient in
Percocet and OxyContin), or Morphine;

... are Schedule II drugs as are ...

* Cocaine (used as a topical anaesthetic);
* Methylphenidate (Ritalin);
* Phencyclidine (PCP);
* Short-acting barbiturates, such as secobarbital;

See below ...

[Quoting ... ]

Schedule II drugs

Findings required:

(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical
use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical
use with severe restrictions.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe
psychological or physical dependence.

These drugs are only available by prescription, and distribution is
carefully controlled and monitored by the DEA. Oral prescriptions are
not allowed except in emergencies, and no refills are allowed. Also,
Schedule II drugs are subject to production quotas set by the DEA.

Drugs on this schedule include:

* Cocaine (used as a topical anaesthetic);

* Methylphenidate (Ritalin);

* Phencyclidine (PCP);

* Most pure opioid agonists: Pethidine (INN) or Meperidine (USAN),
Fentanyl, Hydromorphone, Opium, Oxycodone (the main ingredient in
Percocet and OxyContin), or Morphine;

* Short-acting barbiturates, such as secobarbital;

* Amphetamine was originally placed in Schedule III, but was moved
to Schedule II in 1971. Injectable methamphetamine has always been in
Schedule II;


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control...edule_II_drugs



Yet, it doesn't cause addiction when taken as directed.

( ... whether in fact physiologically addictive and
narcotic or not

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...rcotic&x=0&y=0

Hm. ... )


Ritalin is a schedule 2 drug, not a schedule 1 drug as are LSD and
Marijuana.

Moreover ...

[Quoting ...
Cannabis (includes tetrahydrocannibinols found in marijuana, hashish,
and hashish oil). Cannabis has legal medical uses in some countries and
U.S. states. Consequently, some controversy exists about its placement
in Schedule I. Main article: Cannabis rescheduling in the United
States; ... end quote]

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control...edule_II_drugs
again

Also ...

"TORONTO, Ontario (Reuters) -- The use of medical marijuana has given
two Toronto professors the right to something that many students could
only dream of -- access to specially ventilated rooms where they can
indulge in peace.

The two, at the esteemed University of Toronto and at York University
to the north of the city, suffer from chronic medical conditions that
some doctors say can be eased by smoking marijuana. They are among
nearly 1,500 Canadians who have won the right to use the drug for
health reasons.

Using human rights legislation, the two petitioned their employers for
the right to light up in the workplace. They faced a legal struggle,
but the universities eventually agreed.

"Without the medication, I am disabled and I'm not able to carry out
meaningful and valuable, productive work," said York University
criminology professor Brian MacLean, who suffers from a severe form of
degenerative arthritis. ... "

http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=15870

======================

Fact is that Ritalin is classified as a Schedule II narcotic.

Many of the highly addictive opiates are Schedule II narcotics.
Ritalin, cocaine, and Amphetamine are also Schedule II narcotics.

As for schedule I drugs such as marijuana ?

...

Moreover, I hear that there is some discussion with respect to bringing
LSD back into therapeutic usage.

If you wish to argue with Jan, go for it. .. Shrug.

I don't intend to take sides in this circus. It would seem that there
are some pertinent and empty considerations on both sides of the
debate.

It's not monolithic, one way or the other.

Cordially,

Raving

Thank you for this info. That proves both Peter and Jeff to be wrong.


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Old November 22nd 06, 09:45 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
...
Mark Probert wrote:

Peter Bowditch wrote:
"Jan Drew" wrote:

The narcotic drug Ritalin

That's as far as you have to read before dismissing the bull**** and
getting on with something useful.


If you read to the end, you would see that the writer is a known
$cientologist.


Icing on the cake.
--



Usual ad hominem


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Old November 22nd 06, 09:52 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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Ritalin is not a narcotic drug. You have been told this before.
Repeating the lie will not make it true.


Methylphenidate (MPH) is an amphetamine-like prescription stimulant

"Amphetamines. These are extremely dangerous drugs. They include
dextro-amphetamine, Benzedrine, methamphetamine and amphetamine-like
compounds such as Ritalin. In general, in high doses, these drugs cause a
"body trip" and cessation of thinking activity. In the early days when
Dexedrine was first synthesized by Smith, Kline and French in Philadelphia,
I did some psychopharmacologic experiments on myself with it. In doses of
150 mgm. there is a spectacular increase in bodily energy and a spectacular
decrease in one's critical faculties in regard to this bodily energy. There
is a hedonistic over-valuation of one's own bodily acitivity so that
repeating tapeloops of bodily movement, for example, can occur for hours at
a time. With amphetamines, tank work can become rather repetitious and
simpleminded. For three or four days after such a trip, there is total
exhaustion of the organism. This state can lead to negative things such as
trying to get "back to normal" by taking more of the amphetamines. This
drives one further into the exhaustion cycle and finally one becomes quite
paranoid, quite frightened, and may "freak out" totally. In an attempt to
escape the penalty of such tripping, certain persons have taken to
barbiturates to calm down the system after the trip. This leads to a
cyclical effect in which one gets so depressed by the barbiturates that one
takes amphetamines to come up again; one gets so excited by the amphetamines
that one takes the barbiturates to go down again. This cyclical "tapeloop"
of two drugs can be extremely dangerous-one can end up dead in a
hurry. We recommend that amphetamines not be used in tank
research."--John Lilly MD

Between 1990 and 2000 there were 186 deaths from methylphenidate reported to
the FDA MedWatch program, a voluntary reporting scheme, the numbers of which
represent no more than 10 to 20% of the actual incidence. Source:
http://www.adhdfraud.org/commentary/1-6-02-2.htm


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Old November 22nd 06, 10:12 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,sci.med,talk.politics.medicine
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Ritalin is not a narcotic drug. You have been told this before.
Repeating the lie will not make it true.


It is a class B drug along with amphetamine


The amphetamines are potent psychomotor stimulants. Their use causes a
release of the excitatory neurotransmitters dopamine and noradrenaline
(norepinephrine) from storage vesicles in the CNS. Amphetamines may be
sniffed, swallowed, snorted or injected. They induce exhilarating feelings
of power, strength, energy, self-assertion, focus and enhanced motivation.
The need to sleep or eat is diminished. The release of dopamine typically
induces a sense of aroused euphoria which may last several hours: unlike
cocaine, amphetamine is not readily broken down by the body. Feelings are
intensified. The user may feel he can take on the world.
The euphoria doesn't last. There follows an intense mental
depression and fatigue. Amphetamine depletes the neuronal stores of dopamine
in the mesolimbic pleasure centres of the brain.

More than any other illegal drug, speed is associated with violence
and anti-social behavior. Occasional light and infrequent use is probably
relatively harmless; but heavy chronic use can lead to stereotypies of
behavior, depressive disorders, "meth bugs" akin to cocaine-induced
formication, strain on the cardiovascular system, increasing behavioral
disintegration, and outright "amphetamine psychosis".



Amphetamine is structurally related to ephedrine, a natural stimulant found
in plants of the genus Ephedra. It is also structurally related to
adrenaline, the body's "fight or flight" hormone. Amphetamine was first
synthesised by Edeleano in Germany in 1887, but it only entered clinical
medicine in the late 1920s when its psychostimulant effect was recognised.
The US medical and pharmaceutical establishment was worried that supplies of
ephedra in faraway China would be exhausted. Amphetamine promised a cheap
and synthetic substitute. Like ephedrine, amphetamine dilates the bronchial
small sacs of the lungs, a great blessing for sufferers from breathing
disorders. So in 1932, Smith, Kline and French introduced the famous
Benzedrine Inhaler.

Amphetamine sulphate was aggressively marketed for asthmatics,
hay-fever sufferers and anyone with a cold. Amphetamine was soon available
in pill form too. "Pep pills" were sold over the counter for all manner of
ailments. Doctors prescribed amphetamine for depression, Parkinson's
disease, epilepsy, travel-sickness, night-blindness, hyperactive disorders
of children, obesity, narcolepsy, impotence, and apathy in old age.


 




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