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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message news:JztCc.2217$CR3.1747@lakeread03... "Indyguy1" wrote in message ... Chris wrote: I might add that folks all around the globe care for their children without EVER spending one thin dime. Hey Chris, just *exactly* where is this possible? I know of a whole pack of parents that will be packed and ready to move just as soon as you spill the beans. Watch National Geographic or the Discovery Channel sometime, and I am certain that you will find such places sooner rather than later. But technically speaking, this is possible anywhere. Oh, please, tell us how you do it, Chris. How do you manage to have food, shelter, and a computer hookup without money? I asked for specifics at least a month ago, and he never bothered to answer - I'm most especially interested in how I provide my daughter with a pair of sneakers at no cost, since she outgrew her most recent pair. Oh, and meals......... meals at no cost would be nice - preferably 3 a day per person, at least for the growing children - I can probably get by on 2 a day. And a place to live at no cost - keeping in mind that I have a girl and a boy, so they require separate sleeping areas :-) And some utilities - nothing fancy, maybe some electricity? And running water? And an indoor toilet? Tell us Chris......... how does one get all of these things at no cost? Inquiring minds want to know :-) ------------ Damn my newsgroup connection. I just now got the posts on this thread. Oh well I'm going to add my 2 pence anyway. How do you provide a pair of sneakers at no cost? It can be done at no cost. My dearest friend who has 4 kids and in the past nearly 0 income provided 90% of their stuff by dumpster diving and shopping thrift stores. And meals? Yep, she knew all the places that tossed the leftover perfectly good food at the end of the day. Every day there was a full bag of warm, fresh bagels at her house for example. A place to live? Usually she was able to get a one bedroom place. The kids, 3 girls and 1 boy, made due with sleeping in the living room, utility room and even once a closet. They did not require seperate sleeping areas. Utilities? Well she did qualify for low income rates but usually the utilities were included in the rent. And yes they always had an indoor toilet. Well except when she was still with her husband. Then they had an outhouse. Really. I have known these kids since they were little kids. The eldest is going to the UofA in her 3rd year. All the others are in school doing well. All of them are open, honest, tolerant, helpful and very supportive of each other. Sure, my friend would have loved it if things had been easier and there had been more money. She would have been a lawyer ages ago instead of being in her last year of law school. But the kids learned the value of a dollar, (and an education), and will have a good work ethic. I am proud of those kids and their mom. ~AZ~ |
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message news:JztCc.2217$CR3.1747@lakeread03... "Indyguy1" wrote in message ... Chris wrote: I might add that folks all around the globe care for their children without EVER spending one thin dime. Hey Chris, just *exactly* where is this possible? I know of a whole pack of parents that will be packed and ready to move just as soon as you spill the beans. Watch National Geographic or the Discovery Channel sometime, and I am certain that you will find such places sooner rather than later. But technically speaking, this is possible anywhere. Oh, please, tell us how you do it, Chris. How do you manage to have food, shelter, and a computer hookup without money? I asked for specifics at least a month ago, and he never bothered to answer - I'm most especially interested in how I provide my daughter with a pair of sneakers at no cost, since she outgrew her most recent pair. Oh, and meals......... meals at no cost would be nice - preferably 3 a day per person, at least for the growing children - I can probably get by on 2 a day. And a place to live at no cost - keeping in mind that I have a girl and a boy, so they require separate sleeping areas :-) And some utilities - nothing fancy, maybe some electricity? And running water? And an indoor toilet? Tell us Chris......... how does one get all of these things at no cost? Inquiring minds want to know :-) ------------ Damn my newsgroup connection. I just now got the posts on this thread. Oh well I'm going to add my 2 pence anyway. How do you provide a pair of sneakers at no cost? It can be done at no cost. My dearest friend who has 4 kids and in the past nearly 0 income provided 90% of their stuff by dumpster diving and shopping thrift stores. And meals? Yep, she knew all the places that tossed the leftover perfectly good food at the end of the day. Every day there was a full bag of warm, fresh bagels at her house for example. A place to live? Usually she was able to get a one bedroom place. The kids, 3 girls and 1 boy, made due with sleeping in the living room, utility room and even once a closet. They did not require seperate sleeping areas. Utilities? Well she did qualify for low income rates but usually the utilities were included in the rent. And yes they always had an indoor toilet. Well except when she was still with her husband. Then they had an outhouse. Really. I have known these kids since they were little kids. The eldest is going to the UofA in her 3rd year. All the others are in school doing well. All of them are open, honest, tolerant, helpful and very supportive of each other. Sure, my friend would have loved it if things had been easier and there had been more money. She would have been a lawyer ages ago instead of being in her last year of law school. But the kids learned the value of a dollar, (and an education), and will have a good work ethic. I am proud of those kids and their mom. ~AZ~ |
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"Gini" wrote in message ... In article , Indyguy1 says... Chris wrote: ................................. But technically speaking, this is possible anywhere. How? Just how is this possible *anywhere*? If you are under the impression a parent can just claim squaters rights on a parcel of land, cut down trees (with their bare hands) to build themself a shelter, eat off the fruits of the land, wear leaves to cover their bodies, and educate their children from their experiences alone, you are wrong. ===== Affirmative. My ex and I did this in our hippie days (WV,1970s) except we had a rent-free for fix-up on an old, long abandoned farmhouse. We raised our own vegetables, meat, eggs, milk--even cut our hay with a scythe, kept honey bees, and made our own wine and moonshine (I think the statute of limitation has expired on that ;-). No electricity, cooked and heated with wood and carried water from a spring. We lived on about 2k-3k per year. Cheap but not free. Our money went to maintenance on our very old Jeep, chicken feed and misc. nutrients for the animals, canning supplies (although we did some food dehydration), dog food, household necessities and home fixing materials. We wired, plumbed drywalled the house before we moved. Note, however that we had no kids during most of this time. We adopted our oldest son while there but he certainly didn't increase our living expenses. But, we bought a piece of land and built a "real" house on it before his first winter--We didn't trust him to keep his bankets on overnight and that house was real drafty about 3-4 AM when the wood fire died down. We were able to save quite a bit of money while there. BTW, what I learned during those years was priceless and they were some of the best years of my life. ---------------- Wow! Just wow! ~AZ~ ===== ===== |
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"Gini" wrote in message ... In article , Indyguy1 says... Chris wrote: ................................. But technically speaking, this is possible anywhere. How? Just how is this possible *anywhere*? If you are under the impression a parent can just claim squaters rights on a parcel of land, cut down trees (with their bare hands) to build themself a shelter, eat off the fruits of the land, wear leaves to cover their bodies, and educate their children from their experiences alone, you are wrong. ===== Affirmative. My ex and I did this in our hippie days (WV,1970s) except we had a rent-free for fix-up on an old, long abandoned farmhouse. We raised our own vegetables, meat, eggs, milk--even cut our hay with a scythe, kept honey bees, and made our own wine and moonshine (I think the statute of limitation has expired on that ;-). No electricity, cooked and heated with wood and carried water from a spring. We lived on about 2k-3k per year. Cheap but not free. Our money went to maintenance on our very old Jeep, chicken feed and misc. nutrients for the animals, canning supplies (although we did some food dehydration), dog food, household necessities and home fixing materials. We wired, plumbed drywalled the house before we moved. Note, however that we had no kids during most of this time. We adopted our oldest son while there but he certainly didn't increase our living expenses. But, we bought a piece of land and built a "real" house on it before his first winter--We didn't trust him to keep his bankets on overnight and that house was real drafty about 3-4 AM when the wood fire died down. We were able to save quite a bit of money while there. BTW, what I learned during those years was priceless and they were some of the best years of my life. ---------------- Wow! Just wow! ~AZ~ ===== ===== |
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"Gini" wrote in message ... In article , Indyguy1 says... Chris wrote: ................................. But technically speaking, this is possible anywhere. How? Just how is this possible *anywhere*? If you are under the impression a parent can just claim squaters rights on a parcel of land, cut down trees (with their bare hands) to build themself a shelter, eat off the fruits of the land, wear leaves to cover their bodies, and educate their children from their experiences alone, you are wrong. ===== Affirmative. My ex and I did this in our hippie days (WV,1970s) except we had a rent-free for fix-up on an old, long abandoned farmhouse. We raised our own vegetables, meat, eggs, milk--even cut our hay with a scythe, kept honey bees, and made our own wine and moonshine (I think the statute of limitation has expired on that ;-). No electricity, cooked and heated with wood and carried water from a spring. We lived on about 2k-3k per year. Cheap but not free. Our money went to maintenance on our very old Jeep, chicken feed and misc. nutrients for the animals, canning supplies (although we did some food dehydration), dog food, household necessities and home fixing materials. We wired, plumbed drywalled the house before we moved. Note, however that we had no kids during most of this time. We adopted our oldest son while there but he certainly didn't increase our living expenses. But, we bought a piece of land and built a "real" house on it before his first winter--We didn't trust him to keep his bankets on overnight and that house was real drafty about 3-4 AM when the wood fire died down. We were able to save quite a bit of money while there. BTW, what I learned during those years was priceless and they were some of the best years of my life. ---------------- Wow! Just wow! ~AZ~ ===== ===== |
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