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PING: Anti-psychiatry Lobby. Twittering One is locked up in a mental hospital ...
stan wrote:
Raving Loonie wrote: stan wrote: Is this fun for you? Did daddy cut up your credit cards or something? Why are you here? -stan To expose YOU. Friend of Mark Probert..... By golly, I think that's the first nice thing you've said to or about me, Jan! Thanks! -stan This is Usenet, stan. It is not RL. You are talking bull****. **** off. It doesn't *sound* like RL, either. So then who the hell are you and what is this post of yours about? I am the "Raving Loonie". Check the IP on the headers. In real life psychiatric patients don't exist either, asshole. |
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PING: Anti-psychiatry Lobby. Twittering One is locked up in a mental hospital ...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Sdores" wrote in message .. . How you doing Coleah? I hope all is well. UM MOM Susan My, my........... **I just think posting something like this is useless and doesn't say much about you to bother to Google things like this. You complain that people belittle and so forth, so what is this, being nice! **** "Coleah" wrote in message ... Gosh Susan, I kind of read it that Jan was addressing Stand (sic) and talking about herself....being gay and 'wow'd' by SSRI's. Check the archives, maybe she came out of her closet before and we missed it. She's a fine upstanding Christian woman you know..... "Sdores" wrote in message .. . What's to say? If he is gay so what? Does this have to do with anything? I am not lost as you say, I just think posting something like this is useless and doesn't say much about you to bother to Google things like this. You complain that people belittle and so forth, so what is this, being nice! I don't think so. But do your thing, I just don't agree that this kind of behavior is useful. I'm not as stupid as you would like to think I am. So slam away! UM MOM Susan "Jan Drew" wrote in message y.net... As usual, Sue. You are lost. Hint: archives. Nothing to say about that. "Sdores" wrote in message ... "Jan Drew" wrote in message y.net... "Raving Beauty" wrote in message oups.com... Ilena Rose wrote: YOU ARE A MONEY GRUBBING LIAR!! Stan honey ... down boy. I just read some of your stuff on the net. Looks like you came to help Mark with the Ritalin Pushing ... Grass roots marketeering of addictive, psychosis, tourette and death inducing stimulants to children is in and of itself reprehensible. What makes it doubly reprehensible is that disease mongering wrt ADHD, and, widespread drugging of children with stimulants is being doing to obscure the psychological injuries visited upon 1 in 3 females and 1 in 7 males who report having been sexually molested as children; therefore, grass roots marketeers of stimulants are accomplices of pedophiles, after the fact. As a consequence, it shouldn't surprise anyone that ASAD's grass roots marketeers of addictive, psychosis, tourette and/or death inducing stimulanst most vocal supporters on ASAD are as follows: Joe Parsons: Porn writer/Proprieter Phone Sex business http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2FD65045 John Palmer, Dave et al made ASAD a ng where they posted their SSS FAQ wrt their deriving sexual pleasure from the molestation/sodomizing/torture of girls and boys. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...5afec82ff237b8 Mark Morin used ASAD as a venue to mess with psyche of mothers in circumstances similiar to those of RL mother whose child Morin sexually molested. http://tinyurl.com/qoh4e Jennifer Snow Wolff aka JenWolf's claim to fame includes posting crap to alt.suicide.holiday to encourage OP, incl. boys and girls, to off themselves. http://tinyurl.com/mrcl3 Pablo is ASAD's resident child pornography buff and shadower of homosexual teens in usenets teen ngs. http://tinyurl.com/pxsq6 http://tinyurl.com/m378d I wonder what else abusive Stan does besides push addictive, pyschosis, tourette and/or death inducing stimulants? Oops! That's right. Same thing as Sumbuny, et al! "I work at a child development center as a toddler teacher/caregiver." -stan Jan 16 1999 http://tinyurl.com/lmppo What a surprise! (Not!) WOW!!!! Stanley W. Shura I'm gay Thank goodness for SSRI's What does this mean? Are you saying Stan is gay,? UM MOM Susan Why don't you call Virginia, Jan? She is a mental patient and locked up. Does that threaten you? Or is this Usenet and therefore NOT real life? Here is the phone number to call ... Awe shucks, nobody wants to know so I am not exactly betraying any confidence, eh. Raving Loonie |
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"stan" wrote in message oups.com... Jan Drew wrote: WOW!!!! Stanley W. Shura I'm gay Gee, how'dja figure that one out, Umm...see it right under your name. Yeah - cuz you typed it. And it was a lucky guess on your part. Ummm. NOT! Snipped what you cannot handle? Thank goodness for SSRI's Again - a line that you typed. I snipped it because it doesn't make any sense. Thanks for admitting your posts make no sense. Mother of god, No need to take the Lord's name in vain. Jan, get a life! I have a great one. How about you? This conversation was beneath me 2 exchanges ago. Bad memory.... This whole "I know you are but what am I" has become very embarrassing. You are embarrassed with your OWN posts. Too bad. Your problem. When you can raise the level of discourse a couple of notches, maybe I'll respond again. Blech! -stan Don't hold yourself back, Stanley W Shura.... |
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Hi kiddo, things are well with me. (I see little has changed with Jan's
unending display of hateful righteousness g.) I'm glad to hear that you are working and have a wonderful 'boss' g. You have a sweet family. Hugs, Coleah "Sdores" wrote in message .. . How you doing Coleah? I hope all is well. UM MOM Susan "Coleah" wrote in message ... Gosh Susan, I kind of read it that Jan was addressing Stand and talking about herself....being gay and 'wow'd' by SSRI's. Check the archives, maybe she came out of her closet before and we missed it. She's a fine upstanding Christian woman you know..... "Sdores" wrote in message .. . What's to say? If he is gay so what? Does this have to do with anything? I am not lost as you say, I just think posting something like this is useless and doesn't say much about you to bother to Google things like this. You complain that people belittle and so forth, so what is this, being nice! I don't think so. But do your thing, I just don't agree that this kind of behavior is useful. I'm not as stupid as you would like to think I am. So slam away! UM MOM Susan "Jan Drew" wrote in message y.net... As usual, Sue. You are lost. Hint: archives. Nothing to say about that. "Sdores" wrote in message ... "Jan Drew" wrote in message y.net... "Raving Beauty" wrote in message oups.com... Ilena Rose wrote: YOU ARE A MONEY GRUBBING LIAR!! Stan honey ... down boy. I just read some of your stuff on the net. Looks like you came to help Mark with the Ritalin Pushing ... Grass roots marketeering of addictive, psychosis, tourette and death inducing stimulants to children is in and of itself reprehensible. What makes it doubly reprehensible is that disease mongering wrt ADHD, and, widespread drugging of children with stimulants is being doing to obscure the psychological injuries visited upon 1 in 3 females and 1 in 7 males who report having been sexually molested as children; therefore, grass roots marketeers of stimulants are accomplices of pedophiles, after the fact. As a consequence, it shouldn't surprise anyone that ASAD's grass roots marketeers of addictive, psychosis, tourette and/or death inducing stimulanst most vocal supporters on ASAD are as follows: Joe Parsons: Porn writer/Proprieter Phone Sex business http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2FD65045 John Palmer, Dave et al made ASAD a ng where they posted their SSS FAQ wrt their deriving sexual pleasure from the molestation/sodomizing/torture of girls and boys. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...5afec82ff237b8 Mark Morin used ASAD as a venue to mess with psyche of mothers in circumstances similiar to those of RL mother whose child Morin sexually molested. http://tinyurl.com/qoh4e Jennifer Snow Wolff aka JenWolf's claim to fame includes posting crap to alt.suicide.holiday to encourage OP, incl. boys and girls, to off themselves. http://tinyurl.com/mrcl3 Pablo is ASAD's resident child pornography buff and shadower of homosexual teens in usenets teen ngs. http://tinyurl.com/pxsq6 http://tinyurl.com/m378d I wonder what else abusive Stan does besides push addictive, pyschosis, tourette and/or death inducing stimulants? Oops! That's right. Same thing as Sumbuny, et al! "I work at a child development center as a toddler teacher/caregiver." -stan Jan 16 1999 http://tinyurl.com/lmppo What a surprise! (Not!) WOW!!!! Stanley W. Shura I'm gay Thank goodness for SSRI's What does this mean? Are you saying Stan is gay,? UM MOM Susan |
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"stan" wrote in message ups.com... Is this fun for you? Did daddy cut up your credit cards or something? Why are you here? -stan To expose YOU. Friend of Mark Probert..... By golly, I think that's the first nice thing you've said to or about me, Jan! Thanks! -stan Two peas in a pod. Poor stan. Friend of a proven liar, disbarred attorney, name caller.... filthy mouthed harasser. |
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PING: Anti-psychiatry Lobby. Twittering One is locked up in a mental hospital ...
"stan" wrote in message oups.com... Indigo Crow wrote: stan wrote: Raving Loonie wrote: stan wrote: Is this fun for you? Did daddy cut up your credit cards or something? Why are you here? -stan To expose YOU. Friend of Mark Probert..... By golly, I think that's the first nice thing you've said to or about me, Jan! Thanks! -stan This is Usenet, stan. It is not RL. You are talking bull****. **** off. It doesn't *sound* like RL, either. So then who the hell are you and what is this post of yours about? I am the "Raving Loonie". Check the IP on the headers. In real life psychiatric patients don't exist either, asshole. Okay - there are two explanations to this weird tangent. One is that you are a troll who has gotten hold of someone's computer and cannot handle the freedom, or two - that you are Raving Loonie/RL and the instability you have been documenting, complaining about, and demonstrating on ASAD lately is raging and your just lashing out - without answering my question "what are you posting about" ie. why are you using such hostile language towards me? Either way - it is no longer a wise or intelligent idea for me to continue this conversation with you. You're either an asshole prankster, or a person in genuine emotional trouble. I'm not willing to waste time dealing with one, and I am not qualified to handle the other. So FOAD, or best of luck to you - whichever applies. -stan Yep a friend of Mark Probert. **** FOAD**** |
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PING: Anti-psychiatry Lobby. Twittering One is locked up in a mental hospital ...
Jan Drew wrote: "stan" wrote in message oups.com... Indigo Crow wrote: stan wrote: Raving Loonie wrote: stan wrote: Is this fun for you? Did daddy cut up your credit cards or something? Why are you here? -stan To expose YOU. Friend of Mark Probert..... By golly, I think that's the first nice thing you've said to or about me, Jan! Thanks! -stan This is Usenet, stan. It is not RL. You are talking bull****. **** off. It doesn't *sound* like RL, either. So then who the hell are you and what is this post of yours about? I am the "Raving Loonie". Check the IP on the headers. In real life psychiatric patients don't exist either, asshole. Okay - there are two explanations to this weird tangent. One is that you are a troll who has gotten hold of someone's computer and cannot handle the freedom, or two - that you are Raving Loonie/RL and the instability you have been documenting, complaining about, and demonstrating on ASAD lately is raging and your just lashing out - without answering my question "what are you posting about" ie. why are you using such hostile language towards me? Either way - it is no longer a wise or intelligent idea for me to continue this conversation with you. You're either an asshole prankster, or a person in genuine emotional trouble. I'm not willing to waste time dealing with one, and I am not qualified to handle the other. So FOAD, or best of luck to you - whichever applies. -stan Yep a friend of Mark Probert. **** FOAD**** That's extremely rude, you know Jan, and in your case, extremely hypocritical. |
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Anti-psychiatry Lobby. Twittering One is locked up in a mental hospital ...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Indigo Crow" wrote in message ups.com... Why don't you call Virginia, Jan? Be happy to do just that. Send me her phone number. Emailed. Cordially, RL She is a mental patient and locked up. Does that threaten you? No, why should it? I am very sorry to hear that. I helped her. She and I exchanged e-mails. She knows I am thinking of her and praying for her. Or is this Usenet and therefore NOT real life? Her life is very real. Sad to say many in this group chose not to help her. Here is the phone number to call ... Awe shucks, nobody wants to know so I am not exactly betraying any confidence, eh. Raving Loonie |
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Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: , I ran across the site while I was looking for something else and did not bookmark it or make a note. Sure, Jason, sure. Of course. Naturally., They were trying to get people to volunteer for new studies. It was one of several new studies that was mentioned. My first thought was that any mother that would allow their babies to be injected with vaccines containing mercury is NOT a good mother. You came to this group with your mind made up. You asked questions, you got answers, and, clearly, you were here with your agenda. As you may know, thimerosal will not be used in vaccines in the very near future. Many vaccines no longer contain thimerosal. I don't know why they are conducting such a study. The study would have made sense if it had been done many years ago when they first started making use of thimerosal. You may want to google: "New Research Studies" or Research Studies. Maybe you read it on whale.to. There is a lot of weird stuff there. Spend some time looking for proof of your claim. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Try this link: http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00138333?order=2 I have it bookmarked so let me know if you can't find it. clinicaltrials.gov title of study: MERCURY LEVELS IN PREMATURE AND LBW INFANTS RECEIVING THIMERSAL-CONTAINING VACCINES Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From your original post: "I read about a new study. They are injecting little babies with vaccines containing thimerosal. They plan to determine if those babies develop any reactions to the mercury." The way you wrote it sounds like the study would do the injecting. From the URL you posted: "The primary objective is to describe the levels of mercury in the blood of premature newborns 32 and 37 weeks gestation and birth weight 2000 but 3000 grams, who receive the routine birth dose of Hepatitis B immunization containing ethyl mercury in the form of thimerosal and the birth dose of BBG immunization, and to evaluate the excretion of mercury in these newborns by examining mercury levels in stool and urine." All of the children had the injection prior to coming to the study, and, clearly, this does NOT support your original claim. The purpose of the study is to see how much residual mercury is in each child. The HepB is given at birth. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, You are correct--All of the children had the injections prior to coming to the study. One of the goals was to evaluate the excretion of mercury in these newborns by examining mercury levels in stool and urine. Perhaps you could answer these questions: Why are they still giving vaccines to babies that contain mercury? 1. There is no reason not to. There is no evidence that Thimerosal causes any problems. I find it strange that you keep asking the same question over and over and over, ad nauseum. You will not get a different answer. If thimerosal is safe, why are they conducting clinical trials related to the mercury in babies? Perhaps to answer the anti-vac liars claims, so that there can be no question that their lies are just that. Is it possible that they suspect that the levels of mercury in a premature or LBW infant is very important and MAY be the cause of medical problems. Nope. The principal investigator in the study you referenced is a well known and well respected investigator who nearly had a prior study negated because he did not realize just how fast the mercury from thimerosal is cleared in newborns. I should note that I do believe the levels of mercury in babies is VERY important. I believe that babies should NOT be given vaccines that contain mercury. You keep saying it is your belief. You have a right to believe that. However, there is no factual basis for it. |
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In article , Mark Probert
wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: , I ran across the site while I was looking for something else and did not bookmark it or make a note. Sure, Jason, sure. Of course. Naturally., They were trying to get people to volunteer for new studies. It was one of several new studies that was mentioned. My first thought was that any mother that would allow their babies to be injected with vaccines containing mercury is NOT a good mother. You came to this group with your mind made up. You asked questions, you got answers, and, clearly, you were here with your agenda. As you may know, thimerosal will not be used in vaccines in the very near future. Many vaccines no longer contain thimerosal. I don't know why they are conducting such a study. The study would have made sense if it had been done many years ago when they first started making use of thimerosal. You may want to google: "New Research Studies" or Research Studies. Maybe you read it on whale.to. There is a lot of weird stuff there. Spend some time looking for proof of your claim. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Try this link: http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00138333?order=2 I have it bookmarked so let me know if you can't find it. clinicaltrials.gov title of study: MERCURY LEVELS IN PREMATURE AND LBW INFANTS RECEIVING THIMERSAL-CONTAINING VACCINES Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From your original post: "I read about a new study. They are injecting little babies with vaccines containing thimerosal. They plan to determine if those babies develop any reactions to the mercury." The way you wrote it sounds like the study would do the injecting. From the URL you posted: "The primary objective is to describe the levels of mercury in the blood of premature newborns 32 and 37 weeks gestation and birth weight 2000 but 3000 grams, who receive the routine birth dose of Hepatitis B immunization containing ethyl mercury in the form of thimerosal and the birth dose of BBG immunization, and to evaluate the excretion of mercury in these newborns by examining mercury levels in stool and urine." All of the children had the injection prior to coming to the study, and, clearly, this does NOT support your original claim. The purpose of the study is to see how much residual mercury is in each child. The HepB is given at birth. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, You are correct--All of the children had the injections prior to coming to the study. One of the goals was to evaluate the excretion of mercury in these newborns by examining mercury levels in stool and urine. Perhaps you could answer these questions: Why are they still giving vaccines to babies that contain mercury? 1. There is no reason not to. There is no evidence that Thimerosal causes any problems. I find it strange that you keep asking the same question over and over and over, ad nauseum. You will not get a different answer. If thimerosal is safe, why are they conducting clinical trials related to the mercury in babies? Perhaps to answer the anti-vac liars claims, so that there can be no question that their lies are just that. Is it possible that they suspect that the levels of mercury in a premature or LBW infant is very important and MAY be the cause of medical problems. Nope. The principal investigator in the study you referenced is a well known and well respected investigator who nearly had a prior study negated because he did not realize just how fast the mercury from thimerosal is cleared in newborns. I should note that I do believe the levels of mercury in babies is VERY important. I believe that babies should NOT be given vaccines that contain mercury. You keep saying it is your belief. You have a right to believe that. However, there is no factual basis for it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Thanks for your interesting post. I was NOT aware that the principal investigator in the study you referenced is a well known and well respected investigator who nearly had a prior study negated because he did not realize just how fast the mercury from thimerosal is cleared in newborns. Now I understand the reason for the study. Just in case mercury MAY be the cause of medical problems-especially in premature and LBW infants--I don't believe that children should be given vaccines that contain mercury. As we both know, in the near future, none of the vaccines will contain mercury. The Hepatitis B vaccination (in my opinion) should not have been given to those babies or any other babies until the Hep B vaccine no longer contains mercury. My problem related to this study is no longer with the "principle investigator" since it's important to determine how fast the mercury from thimerosal is cleared in premature and LBW infants. My problem is with the medical establishment that continues to give children vaccines that contain mercury--knowing full well that in the near future that none of the vaccines will contain mercury. It would do no harm to wait until the vaccines that do not contain mercury become available. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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