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A Little Bedtime Story
http://www.wethechildren.com/spankingenglish.htm
.... LISTEN AND LEARN Perhaps there is no better way to help you understand that hitting a child is wrong by telling you a sad but true story that happened several years ago. A father had been saving up money to buy a new car. A year passed and he finally had enough money for a down payment. Proudly, he drove his new car home and excitedly showed his wife and 2 1/2 year old daughter the car. As it happened, the father went into the garage to get some tools and the mother went inside the house to answer the phone, leaving the little girl inside the car all by herself. Finding a pen on the seat beside her, she picked it up and, thinking that it was a toy of sorts, she began poking holes in the upholstery. When the father saw what she had done, he yanked her out of the car and slapped her hand very hard several times. "Bad girl, bad girl, never do that again," he yelled. That night the little girl’s hand swelled up. By morning it had turned an unsightly color. So, the father decided to take his daughter to the doctor. After an X-ray and several other tests the doctor came into the examining room. Pulling the father aside he said in a very sad voice, "You know you have a very large hand and your daughter’s hand is so small. I am sorry but there has been such severe damage that I will have to amputate your little girl’s hand." Months passed. The bandages slowly came off and the little girl was beginning to learn how to live her life with just one hand. One morning, she was sitting in her playroom playing with her toys when her father walked in. Suddenly the little girl looked up and in the sweetest, most imploring voice she said, "Daddy, I promise I’ll never do that again. Please, can I have my hand back now." Grief stricken and horrified at what he had done, the father made a suicide attempt that failed. Today, he runs parenting classes and is an active participant in the fight for human rights for all people, both big and small. As he tells his story and talks about the physical and emotional harm that can result from such a practice, he not only asks, but begs parents not to hit their children. ... Knowing the immoral, unethical, and lying ways of a few folks that post here if you have any questions or objections concerning this story, I suggest you connect with the authors of it, at: http://www.wethechildren.com/spankingenglish.htm -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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A Little Bedtime Story
OK, But is it a propaganda story or a TRUE story?
Do you have the man's name/address/phone number? Which part was worse for the little girl, losing her hand or losing her parents? Surely the CPS agency removed the girl forever. The later part where he was watching her implies the story is a complete work of propagandistic fiction. You post propagandistic FICTION and end with comments about how your detractors are dishonest? 0:- wrote: http://www.wethechildren.com/spankingenglish.htm ... LISTEN AND LEARN Perhaps there is no better way to help you understand that hitting a child is wrong by telling you a sad but true story that happened several years ago. A father had been saving up money to buy a new car. A year passed and he finally had enough money for a down payment. Proudly, he drove his new car home and excitedly showed his wife and 2 1/2 year old daughter the car. As it happened, the father went into the garage to get some tools and the mother went inside the house to answer the phone, leaving the little girl inside the car all by herself. Finding a pen on the seat beside her, she picked it up and, thinking that it was a toy of sorts, she began poking holes in the upholstery. When the father saw what she had done, he yanked her out of the car and slapped her hand very hard several times. "Bad girl, bad girl, never do that again," he yelled. That night the little girl's hand swelled up. By morning it had turned an unsightly color. So, the father decided to take his daughter to the doctor. After an X-ray and several other tests the doctor came into the examining room. Pulling the father aside he said in a very sad voice, "You know you have a very large hand and your daughter's hand is so small. I am sorry but there has been such severe damage that I will have to amputate your little girl's hand." Months passed. The bandages slowly came off and the little girl was beginning to learn how to live her life with just one hand. One morning, she was sitting in her playroom playing with her toys when her father walked in. Suddenly the little girl looked up and in the sweetest, most imploring voice she said, "Daddy, I promise I'll never do that again. Please, can I have my hand back now." Grief stricken and horrified at what he had done, the father made a suicide attempt that failed. Today, he runs parenting classes and is an active participant in the fight for human rights for all people, both big and small. As he tells his story and talks about the physical and emotional harm that can result from such a practice, he not only asks, but begs parents not to hit their children. ... Knowing the immoral, unethical, and lying ways of a few folks that post here if you have any questions or objections concerning this story, I suggest you connect with the authors of it, at: http://www.wethechildren.com/spankingenglish.htm |
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Greegor wrote:
OK, But is it a propaganda story or a TRUE story? I invited you to find out. Why ask the question I already posed? Do you have the man's name/address/phone number? No. The link is below. Follow up on it. Ask the site owners to prove the story. Which part was worse for the little girl, losing her hand or losing her parents? No comparison. She did not lose her parents. Surely the CPS agency removed the girl forever. Why would they do that in a state where spanking was allowed, and the injury was adjudged to be accidental. You should find out if my guess is the case or not, rather than just guess yourself and then ask questions. The later part where he was watching her implies the story is a complete work of propagandistic fiction. Fathers don't watch their daughters at play? I must have been one unnatural father then. I watched all my children play for hundreds, probably thousands of hours. It's how I figured out, with some help, that parents make a lot of mistakes about what children's behavior really is and what it means. Or are you referring to what the little girl is claimed to have said to him? It seems like childlike logic to me. Children, even horrible abused children, seem to nearly always believe that their parents are right. It's only as adults, and sometimes not even then, they figure out the parent was wrong. You post propagandistic FICTION You already have followed up and have proof it's fiction? Please provide some proof of your claim. and end with comments about how your detractors are dishonest? Well, I find the proof of their lies, misleading, spinning, and other creative writing. And post it. You have found the proof, or you pretend you have, and you have not posted it. Which would you call honest; which dishonest? By the way, did you not notice my "A Little Bedtime Story" subject title? 0:- 0:- wrote: http://www.wethechildren.com/spankingenglish.htm ... LISTEN AND LEARN Perhaps there is no better way to help you understand that hitting a child is wrong by telling you a sad but true story that happened several years ago. A father had been saving up money to buy a new car. A year passed and he finally had enough money for a down payment. Proudly, he drove his new car home and excitedly showed his wife and 2 1/2 year old daughter the car. As it happened, the father went into the garage to get some tools and the mother went inside the house to answer the phone, leaving the little girl inside the car all by herself. Finding a pen on the seat beside her, she picked it up and, thinking that it was a toy of sorts, she began poking holes in the upholstery. When the father saw what she had done, he yanked her out of the car and slapped her hand very hard several times. "Bad girl, bad girl, never do that again," he yelled. That night the little girl's hand swelled up. By morning it had turned an unsightly color. So, the father decided to take his daughter to the doctor. After an X-ray and several other tests the doctor came into the examining room. Pulling the father aside he said in a very sad voice, "You know you have a very large hand and your daughter's hand is so small. I am sorry but there has been such severe damage that I will have to amputate your little girl's hand." Months passed. The bandages slowly came off and the little girl was beginning to learn how to live her life with just one hand. One morning, she was sitting in her playroom playing with her toys when her father walked in. Suddenly the little girl looked up and in the sweetest, most imploring voice she said, "Daddy, I promise I'll never do that again. Please, can I have my hand back now." Grief stricken and horrified at what he had done, the father made a suicide attempt that failed. Today, he runs parenting classes and is an active participant in the fight for human rights for all people, both big and small. As he tells his story and talks about the physical and emotional harm that can result from such a practice, he not only asks, but begs parents not to hit their children. ... Knowing the immoral, unethical, and lying ways of a few folks that post here if you have any questions or objections concerning this story, I suggest you connect with the authors of it, at: http://www.wethechildren.com/spankingenglish.htm -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote: Greegor wrote: OK, But is it a propaganda story or a TRUE story? I invited you to find out. Why ask the question I already posed? Hahaha! So you are just spreading LIES right, Kane0? Doan |
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A Little Bedtime Story
Doan wrote:
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote: Greegor wrote: OK, But is it a propaganda story or a TRUE story? I invited you to find out. Why ask the question I already posed? Hahaha! So you are just spreading LIES right, Kane0? I don't know it's a lie or true. That's why I chose the title I did, and invited others to check it out. Have you? Doan You seem overwrought. 0:- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:
Doan wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote: Greegor wrote: OK, But is it a propaganda story or a TRUE story? I invited you to find out. Why ask the question I already posed? Hahaha! So you are just spreading LIES right, Kane0? I don't know it's a lie or true. That's why I chose the title I did, and invited others to check it out. Have you? Hahaha! I don't need to. Only a person like you would believe such a story. Doan You seem overwrought. You seem desperated. Doan |
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A Little Bedtime Story
Doan wrote:
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote: Doan wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote: Greegor wrote: OK, But is it a propaganda story or a TRUE story? I invited you to find out. Why ask the question I already posed? Hahaha! So you are just spreading LIES right, Kane0? I don't know it's a lie or true. That's why I chose the title I did, and invited others to check it out. Have you? Hahaha! I don't need to. Only a person like you would believe such a story. Doan You seem overwrought. You seem desperated. Should we alert Webster's? Doan -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else) |
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A Little Bedtime Story
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:
Doan wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote: Doan wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote: Greegor wrote: OK, But is it a propaganda story or a TRUE story? I invited you to find out. Why ask the question I already posed? Hahaha! So you are just spreading LIES right, Kane0? I don't know it's a lie or true. That's why I chose the title I did, and invited others to check it out. Have you? Hahaha! I don't need to. Only a person like you would believe such a story. Doan You seem overwrought. You seem desperated. Should we alert Webster's? Is that you publisher? Doan |
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A Little Bedtime Story
Doan: From his perpective it was most certainly
a moral and ethical lie. His perceived ends justify any deceptive means. |
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A Little Bedtime Story
On 9 Oct 2006, Greegor wrote:
Doan: From his perpective it was most certainly a moral and ethical lie. His perceived ends justify any deceptive means. If he has to resort to lies to support an agenda then I would question the agenda. Doan |
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