3 year old waking up at 3 am

Our DD has been waking up every night at 3 am for the last four nights.

She had a throat and nose infection and was receiving antibiotics and the
treatment ended a few days before she started waking up at night. The
treatment ended after a doctor check-up who said everything was ok. I don't
feel like having to go to the doctor again, so please give me some ideas why
this is happening.

DD wakes up crying and seems to be upset or in pain (she does not know how
to explain what is wrong and seems to be too upset to communicate). We take
her to the loo, give her some tea or warm milk, try to comfort her, but this
crying goes on for an hour or hour and a half. It is stopped instantly by
some familiar music, but even with the music she does not go back to sleep.
Her nose also starts running (although we have warm air humidifier on at all
times in winter) and she rubs her eyes. Her throat is not red, she is not in
pain when we check her ears for pain. We thought she might be going through
a growth period as she just turned 3 years old and increased her dinner
size, which she eats, but still wakes up promptly at 3 am. She was out of
day-care for a week because of the infection, but she knows the children and
carers for a long time and this is not the first time she was out (holiday
or infection) and back again.

TIA

Lejla/Lyla
DD 02 Nov 2000

In article , Lejla/Lyla says...

Our DD has been waking up every night at 3 am for the last four nights.

She had a throat and nose infection and was receiving antibiotics and the
treatment ended a few days before she started waking up at night. The
treatment ended after a doctor check-up who said everything was ok. I don't
feel like having to go to the doctor again, so please give me some ideas why
this is happening.

DD wakes up crying and seems to be upset or in pain (she does not know how
to explain what is wrong and seems to be too upset to communicate). We take
her to the loo, give her some tea or warm milk, try to comfort her, but this
crying goes on for an hour or hour and a half. It is stopped instantly by
some familiar music, but even with the music she does not go back to sleep.
Her nose also starts running (although we have warm air humidifier on at all
times in winter) and she rubs her eyes. Her throat is not red, she is not in
pain when we check her ears for pain. We thought she might be going through
a growth period as she just turned 3 years old and increased her dinner
size, which she eats, but still wakes up promptly at 3 am. She was out of
day-care for a week because of the infection, but she knows the children and
carers for a long time and this is not the first time she was out (holiday
or infection) and back again.

She needs to be followed up. For differential diagnosis or maybe a different
antibiotic.

You need to 'feel like' bringing her to the doctor again.

Banty

Sounds to me like the infection has come back again. Did you finish all the
medication before ending treatment? If you didn't, then I definitely would
suspect perhaps another ear infection. Just because there is no pain or
fever, doesn't mean that there couldn't still be fluid or something to cause
her to not sleep well. My DD3 never ran a fever when she would have an ear
infection, nor would she act any different. I guess I would watch her for a
couple more days and see how it goes, but I probably would go back to the
doctor.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)
I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World...

Lejla/Lyla wrote in message
...
Our DD has been waking up every night at 3 am for the last four nights.

She had a throat and nose infection and was receiving antibiotics and the
treatment ended a few days before she started waking up at night. The
treatment ended after a doctor check-up who said everything was ok. I
don't
feel like having to go to the doctor again, so please give me some ideas
why
this is happening.

DD wakes up crying and seems to be upset or in pain (she does not know how
to explain what is wrong and seems to be too upset to communicate). We
take
her to the loo, give her some tea or warm milk, try to comfort her, but
this
crying goes on for an hour or hour and a half. It is stopped instantly by
some familiar music, but even with the music she does not go back to
sleep.
Her nose also starts running (although we have warm air humidifier on at
all
times in winter) and she rubs her eyes. Her throat is not red, she is not
in
pain when we check her ears for pain. We thought she might be going
through
a growth period as she just turned 3 years old and increased her dinner
size, which she eats, but still wakes up promptly at 3 am. She was out of
day-care for a week because of the infection, but she knows the children
and
carers for a long time and this is not the first time she was out (holiday
or infection) and back again.

TIA

Lejla/Lyla
DD 02 Nov 2000

"Banty" wrote in message
...
In article , Lejla/Lyla says...

Our DD has been waking up every night at 3 am for the last four nights.

She had a throat and nose infection and was receiving antibiotics and the
treatment ended a few days before she started waking up at night. The
treatment ended after a doctor check-up who said everything was ok. I
don't
feel like having to go to the doctor again, so please give me some ideas
why
this is happening.

DD wakes up crying and seems to be upset or in pain (she does not know
how
to explain what is wrong and seems to be too upset to communicate). We
take
her to the loo, give her some tea or warm milk, try to comfort her, but
this
crying goes on for an hour or hour and a half. It is stopped instantly by
some familiar music, but even with the music she does not go back to
sleep.
Her nose also starts running (although we have warm air humidifier on at
all
times in winter) and she rubs her eyes. Her throat is not red, she is not
in
pain when we check her ears for pain. We thought she might be going
through
a growth period as she just turned 3 years old and increased her dinner
size, which she eats, but still wakes up promptly at 3 am. She was out of
day-care for a week because of the infection, but she knows the children
and
carers for a long time and this is not the first time she was out
(holiday
or infection) and back again.

She needs to be followed up. For differential diagnosis or maybe a
different
antibiotic.

You need to 'feel like' bringing her to the doctor again.

Banty


Thanks, I guess you are right - we will see the doctor tomorrow.

Lejla/Lyla
DD 02 Nov 2000

"Sue" wrote in message
...
Sounds to me like the infection has come back again. Did you finish all
the
medication before ending treatment? If you didn't, then I definitely would
suspect perhaps another ear infection. Just because there is no pain or
fever, doesn't mean that there couldn't still be fluid or something to
cause
her to not sleep well. My DD3 never ran a fever when she would have an ear
infection, nor would she act any different. I guess I would watch her for
a
couple more days and see how it goes, but I probably would go back to the
doctor.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)
I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World...

Lejla/Lyla wrote in message
...
Our DD has been waking up every night at 3 am for the last four nights.

She had a throat and nose infection and was receiving antibiotics and
the
treatment ended a few days before she started waking up at night. The
treatment ended after a doctor check-up who said everything was ok. I
don't
feel like having to go to the doctor again, so please give me some ideas
why
this is happening.

DD wakes up crying and seems to be upset or in pain (she does not know
how
to explain what is wrong and seems to be too upset to communicate). We
take
her to the loo, give her some tea or warm milk, try to comfort her, but
this
crying goes on for an hour or hour and a half. It is stopped instantly
by
some familiar music, but even with the music she does not go back to
sleep.
Her nose also starts running (although we have warm air humidifier on at
all
times in winter) and she rubs her eyes. Her throat is not red, she is
not
in
pain when we check her ears for pain. We thought she might be going
through
a growth period as she just turned 3 years old and increased her dinner
size, which she eats, but still wakes up promptly at 3 am. She was out
of
day-care for a week because of the infection, but she knows the children
and
carers for a long time and this is not the first time she was out
(holiday
or infection) and back again.

TIA

Lejla/Lyla
DD 02 Nov 2000





Thanks Sue - seems like we need to see the doctor again.
Lejla/Lyla
DD 02 Nov 2000

our 3 yo gets pains in his legs - and i hav to rub his legs and he
eventually falls asleep. sometimes i give him ibuprofen(spel?). he does
not get this during the day. it is usually after abig day's playing, but
also to do with growing pains i feel.

might be that?

christine
"Lejla/Lyla" wrote in message
...
Our DD has been waking up every night at 3 am for the last four nights.

She had a throat and nose infection and was receiving antibiotics and the
treatment ended a few days before she started waking up at night. The
treatment ended after a doctor check-up who said everything was ok. I
don't
feel like having to go to the doctor again, so please give me some ideas
why
this is happening.

DD wakes up crying and seems to be upset or in pain (she does not know how
to explain what is wrong and seems to be too upset to communicate). We
take
her to the loo, give her some tea or warm milk, try to comfort her, but
this
crying goes on for an hour or hour and a half. It is stopped instantly by
some familiar music, but even with the music she does not go back to
sleep.
Her nose also starts running (although we have warm air humidifier on at
all
times in winter) and she rubs her eyes. Her throat is not red, she is not
in
pain when we check her ears for pain. We thought she might be going
through
a growth period as she just turned 3 years old and increased her dinner
size, which she eats, but still wakes up promptly at 3 am. She was out of
day-care for a week because of the infection, but she knows the children
and
carers for a long time and this is not the first time she was out (holiday
or infection) and back again.

TIA

Lejla/Lyla
DD 02 Nov 2000

Mamma Mia wrote:

our 3 yo gets pains in his legs - and i hav to rub his legs and he
eventually falls asleep. sometimes i give him ibuprofen(spel?). he does
not get this during the day. it is usually after abig day's playing, but
also to do with growing pains i feel.

might be that?

Your son has the exact symptoms of Restless Legs Syndrome. Many
people who suffer from this don't even know the name of it.

Info at:

http://www.rls.org

"Mamma Mia" wrote in message
...

our 3 yo gets pains in his legs - and i hav to rub his legs and he
eventually falls asleep. sometimes i give him ibuprofen(spel?). he
does
not get this during the day. it is usually after abig day's playing,
but
also to do with growing pains i feel.

might be that?

Yes. Here's a description of growing pains (from
http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/sympt...inlimping.html):

Growing pains: this is a common condition that can cause leg pain in
children aged 5-10, especially during times of rapid growth. The pain
usually occurs at night, is usually not very well localized and may
occur in different places each night. This condition should not cause
your child to limp and should not limit his activities in any way and is
usually made better if you massage or rub on the affected areas.

A good discussion of growing pains can be found at
http://www.drgreene.com/21_122.html (the question that prompted the
discussion was from the mother of a three-year-old); another good one is
at http://www.parentcenter.com/refcap/h...atoz/2136.html.

Probably much more likely to be "growing pains," given your son's age,
than restless legs syndrome. Mention it to your son's physician. Good
luck!

"L. Kincaid" wrote in message
...
Mamma Mia wrote:

our 3 yo gets pains in his legs - and i hav to rub his legs and he
eventually falls asleep. sometimes i give him ibuprofen(spel?). he
does
not get this during the day. it is usually after abig day's
playing, but
also to do with growing pains i feel.

might be that?

Your son has the exact symptoms of Restless Legs Syndrome. Many
people who suffer from this don't even know the name of it.

Info at:

http://www.rls.org

Many things can cause leg pain in children, and given that "Mamma Mia"
didn't mention that her son exhibited an overwhelming urge to move his
legs (a symptom that almost always occurs with rls), I'd think "growing
pains" is a more likely diagnosis. A physician, of course, should be
able to allay any doubts/fears and answer any questions.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:27:54 GMT, "JG" wrote:

"L. Kincaid" wrote in message
...
Mamma Mia wrote:

our 3 yo gets pains in his legs - and i hav to rub his legs and he
eventually falls asleep. sometimes i give him ibuprofen(spel?). he
does
not get this during the day. it is usually after abig day's
playing, but
also to do with growing pains i feel.

might be that?

Your son has the exact symptoms of Restless Legs Syndrome. Many
people who suffer from this don't even know the name of it.

Info at:

http://www.rls.org

Many things can cause leg pain in children, and given that "Mamma Mia"
didn't mention that her son exhibited an overwhelming urge to move his
legs (a symptom that almost always occurs with rls), I'd think "growing
pains" is a more likely diagnosis. A physician, of course, should be
able to allay any doubts/fears and answer any questions.

L. Kincaid seems to suffer from the hammer/nail syndrome so prevalent
on this newsgroup (like the celiac guy who thinks everyone on here has
celiac disease.)

In this case, it's rather amusing, as the child has all of the "exact
symptoms" of growing pains, and absolutely none of the symptoms of
RLS, yet Kincaid still concludes he has RLS, blinded by his devotion
to it.

PF