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  #11  
Old July 21st 04, 05:41 AM
Father O'Nearly
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"teachrmama" wrote in message ...
Just out of curiosity, what would you hope to accomplish in terms of getting
to know your children by doing such a thing?

I have little interest in knowing my children anymore.They know that i
exist but they have refused to write back to me or to have any contact
with me.This is because the mother disappeared many years ago when my
children were less than two years old.She changed my childrens names
to her new partners so that he could pretend to be their real
father.If i had taken the children away from the mother in the same
way as she did to me it would be classed as abduction.She moved to a
little village and played happy families by pretending that they are
the perfect family and i want the people in that village to know what
she has done.
Could i write to all her neighbours and tell them what a child
stealing bitch she is? Or am i supposed to let them carry on their
crime unnoticed. Women who do this sort of thing and think they can
walk around with their heads up should be brought down a peg or two
and be named and shamed in their neighbourhood.
"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.
11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.

I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born. When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.

11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.

What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction. I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.

Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?

  #12  
Old July 21st 04, 05:41 AM
Father O'Nearly
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?

"teachrmama" wrote in message ...
Just out of curiosity, what would you hope to accomplish in terms of getting
to know your children by doing such a thing?

I have little interest in knowing my children anymore.They know that i
exist but they have refused to write back to me or to have any contact
with me.This is because the mother disappeared many years ago when my
children were less than two years old.She changed my childrens names
to her new partners so that he could pretend to be their real
father.If i had taken the children away from the mother in the same
way as she did to me it would be classed as abduction.She moved to a
little village and played happy families by pretending that they are
the perfect family and i want the people in that village to know what
she has done.
Could i write to all her neighbours and tell them what a child
stealing bitch she is? Or am i supposed to let them carry on their
crime unnoticed. Women who do this sort of thing and think they can
walk around with their heads up should be brought down a peg or two
and be named and shamed in their neighbourhood.
"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.
11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.

I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born. When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.

11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.

What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction. I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.

Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?

  #13  
Old July 21st 04, 05:41 AM
Father O'Nearly
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Posts: n/a
Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?

"teachrmama" wrote in message ...
Just out of curiosity, what would you hope to accomplish in terms of getting
to know your children by doing such a thing?

I have little interest in knowing my children anymore.They know that i
exist but they have refused to write back to me or to have any contact
with me.This is because the mother disappeared many years ago when my
children were less than two years old.She changed my childrens names
to her new partners so that he could pretend to be their real
father.If i had taken the children away from the mother in the same
way as she did to me it would be classed as abduction.She moved to a
little village and played happy families by pretending that they are
the perfect family and i want the people in that village to know what
she has done.
Could i write to all her neighbours and tell them what a child
stealing bitch she is? Or am i supposed to let them carry on their
crime unnoticed. Women who do this sort of thing and think they can
walk around with their heads up should be brought down a peg or two
and be named and shamed in their neighbourhood.
"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.
11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.

I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born. When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.

11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.

What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction. I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.

Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?

  #14  
Old July 21st 04, 05:52 AM
Father O'Nearly
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Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?

Bob wrote in message ...
Father O'Nearly wrote:
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.


She produced a girl, for which you are expected to pay.

Why should i be expected to pay when i was not even allowed to see my
daughter's face when she was born and for the next 11 years she was
told that her mother's boyfriend was her real father? I was refused
parental responsibility but have to be responsible for paying for her.
Despite my attempts through court to see her i have got nowhere and i
have never seen my daughter's face since.

11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.


Common story. The courts are very hesitant to allow any rights to
fathers at all.

Bob has suggested putting her carcass in the swamp for the alligators
since dead mothers don't get custody, but others think that's upsetting
to the child.


I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born.


If you are paying C$, you need to have a DNA test done. Unmarried GFs
are even less likely to be faithful than wives, and wives produce 10% to
30% children from unknown fathers. Unless you have had a DNA test,
there is a good chance that it's not your daughter.

Would forcing a dna test be upsetting for the children and further
agravating an already delicate problem. I think the kids would hate me
for it.

When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.


Since she treated you like that, it's probably not your daughter.


11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.


You can file a suit demanding a DNA test and challenging the CSA bill.
Otherwise bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.

A more expeditious approach would be to dump the carcass in the swamp,
or do like Scott Peterson and take her "fishing." Since you've been
identified by CSA as the father you would have a pretty good claim on
custody after the mother goes missing -- "Probably ran off with another
man, she has a history of doing that."


What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction.


Not unless you have a custody order from a court, and you don't.


I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.


Best keep quiet for a few weeks before she "disappears."


Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?


You probably could get sued for libel, but not criminal charges, at
least not here.

Bob

--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

  #15  
Old July 21st 04, 05:52 AM
Father O'Nearly
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Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?

Bob wrote in message ...
Father O'Nearly wrote:
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.


She produced a girl, for which you are expected to pay.

Why should i be expected to pay when i was not even allowed to see my
daughter's face when she was born and for the next 11 years she was
told that her mother's boyfriend was her real father? I was refused
parental responsibility but have to be responsible for paying for her.
Despite my attempts through court to see her i have got nowhere and i
have never seen my daughter's face since.

11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.


Common story. The courts are very hesitant to allow any rights to
fathers at all.

Bob has suggested putting her carcass in the swamp for the alligators
since dead mothers don't get custody, but others think that's upsetting
to the child.


I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born.


If you are paying C$, you need to have a DNA test done. Unmarried GFs
are even less likely to be faithful than wives, and wives produce 10% to
30% children from unknown fathers. Unless you have had a DNA test,
there is a good chance that it's not your daughter.

Would forcing a dna test be upsetting for the children and further
agravating an already delicate problem. I think the kids would hate me
for it.

When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.


Since she treated you like that, it's probably not your daughter.


11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.


You can file a suit demanding a DNA test and challenging the CSA bill.
Otherwise bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.

A more expeditious approach would be to dump the carcass in the swamp,
or do like Scott Peterson and take her "fishing." Since you've been
identified by CSA as the father you would have a pretty good claim on
custody after the mother goes missing -- "Probably ran off with another
man, she has a history of doing that."


What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction.


Not unless you have a custody order from a court, and you don't.


I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.


Best keep quiet for a few weeks before she "disappears."


Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?


You probably could get sued for libel, but not criminal charges, at
least not here.

Bob

--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

  #16  
Old July 21st 04, 05:52 AM
Father O'Nearly
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?

Bob wrote in message ...
Father O'Nearly wrote:
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.


She produced a girl, for which you are expected to pay.

Why should i be expected to pay when i was not even allowed to see my
daughter's face when she was born and for the next 11 years she was
told that her mother's boyfriend was her real father? I was refused
parental responsibility but have to be responsible for paying for her.
Despite my attempts through court to see her i have got nowhere and i
have never seen my daughter's face since.

11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.


Common story. The courts are very hesitant to allow any rights to
fathers at all.

Bob has suggested putting her carcass in the swamp for the alligators
since dead mothers don't get custody, but others think that's upsetting
to the child.


I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born.


If you are paying C$, you need to have a DNA test done. Unmarried GFs
are even less likely to be faithful than wives, and wives produce 10% to
30% children from unknown fathers. Unless you have had a DNA test,
there is a good chance that it's not your daughter.

Would forcing a dna test be upsetting for the children and further
agravating an already delicate problem. I think the kids would hate me
for it.

When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.


Since she treated you like that, it's probably not your daughter.


11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.


You can file a suit demanding a DNA test and challenging the CSA bill.
Otherwise bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.

A more expeditious approach would be to dump the carcass in the swamp,
or do like Scott Peterson and take her "fishing." Since you've been
identified by CSA as the father you would have a pretty good claim on
custody after the mother goes missing -- "Probably ran off with another
man, she has a history of doing that."


What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction.


Not unless you have a custody order from a court, and you don't.


I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.


Best keep quiet for a few weeks before she "disappears."


Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?


You probably could get sued for libel, but not criminal charges, at
least not here.

Bob

--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

  #17  
Old July 21st 04, 06:30 AM
teachrmama
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?


"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
"teachrmama" wrote in message

...
Just out of curiosity, what would you hope to accomplish in terms of

getting
to know your children by doing such a thing?

I have little interest in knowing my children anymore.They know that i
exist but they have refused to write back to me or to have any contact
with me.This is because the mother disappeared many years ago when my
children were less than two years old.She changed my childrens names
to her new partners so that he could pretend to be their real
father.If i had taken the children away from the mother in the same
way as she did to me it would be classed as abduction.She moved to a
little village and played happy families by pretending that they are
the perfect family and i want the people in that village to know what
she has done.
Could i write to all her neighbours and tell them what a child
stealing bitch she is? Or am i supposed to let them carry on their
crime unnoticed. Women who do this sort of thing and think they can
walk around with their heads up should be brought down a peg or two
and be named and shamed in their neighbourhood.


My husband discovered a few years ago that he had an almost 13 year old
daughter by a one night stand (before we ever met). The woman moved and
never let him know he might be a dad. She has a number of illegitimate
children by an equal number of fathers. She told his daughter that her
father had abandoned them when she was a baby. What a viscious lying slut!
He didn't even know she existed! I do understand your craving revenge. I
find these women's behavior absolutely disgusting! But the question is,
what good would it do? Your children may seek you out one day--you don't
know their reasons for not doing so now--it could be social pressure, fear
of what friends/family will say--it could be many things. I see from your
post that you are seeking to punish the woman who did this to you. But you
may just hurt your children and destroy any possibility that they will ever
seek you out. And it seems from your posts, that you are hurt because you
were so unfairly cut off from them. Do you really want to destroy any hope
of a future relationship with them just to hurt the selfish fool who hurt
you?

"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.
11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.

I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born. When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.

11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.

What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction. I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.

Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?



  #18  
Old July 21st 04, 06:30 AM
teachrmama
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?


"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
"teachrmama" wrote in message

...
Just out of curiosity, what would you hope to accomplish in terms of

getting
to know your children by doing such a thing?

I have little interest in knowing my children anymore.They know that i
exist but they have refused to write back to me or to have any contact
with me.This is because the mother disappeared many years ago when my
children were less than two years old.She changed my childrens names
to her new partners so that he could pretend to be their real
father.If i had taken the children away from the mother in the same
way as she did to me it would be classed as abduction.She moved to a
little village and played happy families by pretending that they are
the perfect family and i want the people in that village to know what
she has done.
Could i write to all her neighbours and tell them what a child
stealing bitch she is? Or am i supposed to let them carry on their
crime unnoticed. Women who do this sort of thing and think they can
walk around with their heads up should be brought down a peg or two
and be named and shamed in their neighbourhood.


My husband discovered a few years ago that he had an almost 13 year old
daughter by a one night stand (before we ever met). The woman moved and
never let him know he might be a dad. She has a number of illegitimate
children by an equal number of fathers. She told his daughter that her
father had abandoned them when she was a baby. What a viscious lying slut!
He didn't even know she existed! I do understand your craving revenge. I
find these women's behavior absolutely disgusting! But the question is,
what good would it do? Your children may seek you out one day--you don't
know their reasons for not doing so now--it could be social pressure, fear
of what friends/family will say--it could be many things. I see from your
post that you are seeking to punish the woman who did this to you. But you
may just hurt your children and destroy any possibility that they will ever
seek you out. And it seems from your posts, that you are hurt because you
were so unfairly cut off from them. Do you really want to destroy any hope
of a future relationship with them just to hurt the selfish fool who hurt
you?

"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.
11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.

I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born. When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.

11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.

What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction. I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.

Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?



  #19  
Old July 21st 04, 06:30 AM
teachrmama
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?


"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
"teachrmama" wrote in message

...
Just out of curiosity, what would you hope to accomplish in terms of

getting
to know your children by doing such a thing?

I have little interest in knowing my children anymore.They know that i
exist but they have refused to write back to me or to have any contact
with me.This is because the mother disappeared many years ago when my
children were less than two years old.She changed my childrens names
to her new partners so that he could pretend to be their real
father.If i had taken the children away from the mother in the same
way as she did to me it would be classed as abduction.She moved to a
little village and played happy families by pretending that they are
the perfect family and i want the people in that village to know what
she has done.
Could i write to all her neighbours and tell them what a child
stealing bitch she is? Or am i supposed to let them carry on their
crime unnoticed. Women who do this sort of thing and think they can
walk around with their heads up should be brought down a peg or two
and be named and shamed in their neighbourhood.


My husband discovered a few years ago that he had an almost 13 year old
daughter by a one night stand (before we ever met). The woman moved and
never let him know he might be a dad. She has a number of illegitimate
children by an equal number of fathers. She told his daughter that her
father had abandoned them when she was a baby. What a viscious lying slut!
He didn't even know she existed! I do understand your craving revenge. I
find these women's behavior absolutely disgusting! But the question is,
what good would it do? Your children may seek you out one day--you don't
know their reasons for not doing so now--it could be social pressure, fear
of what friends/family will say--it could be many things. I see from your
post that you are seeking to punish the woman who did this to you. But you
may just hurt your children and destroy any possibility that they will ever
seek you out. And it seems from your posts, that you are hurt because you
were so unfairly cut off from them. Do you really want to destroy any hope
of a future relationship with them just to hurt the selfish fool who hurt
you?

"Father O'Nearly" wrote in message
m...
I am new to this group and I find that this could be what I am looking
for. Over 11 years ago I was living with my girlfriend with my son and
my girlfriend of 6 years became pregnant again which later produced a
girl.
11 years later I am now very happily married to a wonderful woman but
I still hanker after my children. I have been to court several times
to get access to my children but to no avail.

I have never been allowed to see my daughter since she was born. When
my daughter was born, I was not even told by the mother. I have been
to court several times but the mother and her new partner have moved
several times which has prolonged the chance of contact.

11 years later I am now forced with a CSA bill although I have never
seen my children and they have changed their name to her new partners.
They call him Dad. I have tried to get their interest but to no avail.

What I want to know is, can I name and shame her and her boyfriend for
child abduction. I would love to arrange posters around their village
about their crime of child abduction. I have been trying for so many
years to get access to my children but the new partner to my ex has
implanted himself as their father and I am left in the dark.

Can I post posters in her village for child abduction charges without
facing criminal prosecution?



  #20  
Old July 21st 04, 02:40 PM
Bob
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Default Naming and shaming am i allowed?

Father O'Nearly wrote:
"teachrmama" wrote in message ...

Just out of curiosity, what would you hope to accomplish in terms of getting
to know your children by doing such a thing?


I have little interest in knowing my children anymore.They know that i
exist but they have refused to write back to me or to have any contact
with me.This is because the mother disappeared many years ago when my
children were less than two years old.She changed my childrens names
to her new partners so that he could pretend to be their real
father.If i had taken the children away from the mother in the same
way as she did to me it would be classed as abduction.She moved to a
little village and played happy families by pretending that they are
the perfect family and i want the people in that village to know what
she has done.



That seems like a reasonable response.



Could i write to all her neighbours and tell them what a child
stealing bitch she is? Or am i supposed to let them carry on their
crime unnoticed. Women who do this sort of thing and think they can
walk around with their heads up should be brought down a peg or two
and be named and shamed in their neighbourhood.


I hears about an Australian group called "Blackshirts" who sometimes
held public demonstrations in front of femorrhoids who stole the kids
from their fathers. Public shaming is the minimum of what she deserves.

Bob


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When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


 




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