Ken's checking accounts KANE'S HERO speaks

Doan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

Greegor wrote:
Mis-attributed to me. These look like Kane's words.
I see krp has run up a few posts addressed to me with the usual lies
about what he's posted and about what I've posted, and claims he did
this or that the refuted my claims, where he has done nothing of the
sort.
Kane wrote
You know my name, and you know why I don't post it here. And you know
that it's morally acceptable to mislead if others are in danger, or even
one's self. Physically, and for one's life.
Thank you Donald L. Fisher, for acknowledging your identity.
I didn't say that Doan knew a specific name, Greg.
So what name I know, Kane?
I don't read minds.

Yet you claimed that I know you name?
Sure.

So what name is that?

Keep straining. You'll get that **** all out of your mouth eventually.

You just can't keep your story
straight, Kane?
Because I won't verify it publicly my story isn't straight?

Because you claimed I know it, STUPID!

Yes. I did claim that.

How does that obligate me to verify it?

Do you answer every question of mine about your claims?

0:-

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

The statement that X "LEADS TO" Y IS a statement in causality Kane you
stupid HUMP!

"Stupid HUMP?"

Is that how you refer to the people that publicly kick your ass all over
a few newsgroups?

Like I told you, it's possible for "leads to" to refer to cause, but
there'd be supporting commentary. While "leads to" more often refers to
correlations.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...on&btnG=Search

Read'm and weep stupid, then post your scientific evidence concerning
the risk to non spanked children of developing sociopathy. R R R R R R

A google seaceh proves nothing, Kane!

Here they are, a comin' right atcha. And I'll do it again and again.
Check my posting history.

The search is on your words in your claim, exactly:

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,510,000

Are you so STUPID? None support you claim. Or are you suggesting that
people read through all 3 and a halft millions hits ????

YOU ARE STUPID!!!

Doan

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

Oh, and Ken. I aced my social statistic college coursework. I like to
tease Doan by pretending to be as stupid as he is.

Hihihi! So can he only "pretending" when he EXPOSED his STUPIDITY!

I'd do it again, and he'll fall for it again. Don't bother to try and
lie to me about social science terminology. I took both my major and
minor in fields that required a great deal of productive work in
statistics.

And that is why Kane claimed that using dummies in car crash studies
makes those studies correlational!

Doan

Doan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

Oh, and Ken. I aced my social statistic college coursework. I like to
tease Doan by pretending to be as stupid as he is.

Hihihi! So can he only "pretending" when he EXPOSED his STUPIDITY!

I'd do it again, and he'll fall for it again. Don't bother to try and
lie to me about social science terminology. I took both my major and
minor in fields that required a great deal of productive work in
statistics.

And that is why Kane claimed that using dummies in car crash studies
makes those studies correlational!

So then, you have not answered my question concerning that.

Would we have a test that showed injury to adults, or to dummies?

If injury to dummies is cause to presume the same injuries to humans
then it's causal. If it shows a correlation to injuries to dummies
replicated by injuries to humans then we don't.

The research is dummies to dummies...a simulation.

That's why so much research results in physics related to nature of
matter and energy can't be truly claimed to be causal.

So, tell us about Quantum Mechanics and String Theory.

And about the psychological effects on dummies from physical injury and
trauma.

Now, a final question, you will dodge:

If we take dummies in the form of human children, and subject them to
all the various forms of spanking under all the various possible
circumstances, will we have conducted a causal research model on
children or dummies?

Show how replacing children with dummies would produce the true causal
relationship that would indeed show that the dummies developed
hhhmmmmphh behavior 'sociopathy.'

I hear some such research has been conducted that did indeed show the
'sociopathy.'

I had not heard there were dummies.

There are two here, though. One Doan and one Princess Kendra.

0:- You be well, yah hear?

Hey, the dads-rights addy is back. Thanks for the capture. Apparently
someone has been removing it while Ken writes his response...as least in
other threads.


Doan

Doan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

Oh, and Ken. I aced my social statistic college coursework. I like to
tease Doan by pretending to be as stupid as he is.

Hihihi! So can he only "pretending" when he EXPOSED his STUPIDITY!

I'd do it again, and he'll fall for it again. Don't bother to try and
lie to me about social science terminology. I took both my major and
minor in fields that required a great deal of productive work in
statistics.

And that is why Kane claimed that using dummies in car crash studies
makes those studies correlational!

Doan


Damn, I completely forget.

So tell us how the auto crash dummies and the child dummies would
"behave," more or less aggressively due to the various levels of impact.
It seems Ken's claim was about behavior, not about levels of mechanical
injury.

Thanks.

Kane

Doan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

The statement that X "LEADS TO" Y IS a statement in causality Kane you
stupid HUMP!
"Stupid HUMP?"

Is that how you refer to the people that publicly kick your ass all over
a few newsgroups?

Like I told you, it's possible for "leads to" to refer to cause, but
there'd be supporting commentary. While "leads to" more often refers to
correlations.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...on&btnG=Search

Read'm and weep stupid, then post your scientific evidence concerning
the risk to non spanked children of developing sociopathy. R R R R R R

A google seaceh proves nothing, Kane!

The results do.

Here they are, a comin' right atcha. And I'll do it again and again.
Check my posting history.

The search is on your words in your claim, exactly:

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,510,000

Are you so STUPID? None support you claim. Or are you suggesting that
people read through all 3 and a halft millions hits ????

Nope. Only the ones that show that referring to X leads to Y is used in
correlation studies.

Besides, I only was responding to Ken.

Are you answering for him?

Why not, 0;-, let him answer for himself? Can't he?


YOU ARE STUPID!!!


I didn't claim that dummy tests produce behavioral results causally. It
seems you were trying to.

They show causal relationships for mechanical injury to dummies, nothing
else.

The same injuries to humans is inferred. Inference is usually associated
with correlation.

We can see, by collecting some data on actual injuries to human where it
MIGHT apply, but certainly not always, and since the issue here is human
behavior, as in non spanking CAUSES behavior sociopathy in children, a
claim by Ken, we won't be able to use a dummy study.

Unless you can show they have behaviors.

Possibly Ken would do that. He'd know a lot about dummies...oh wait, so
do you, coming from a long line of them.

The last of which spanked you into this strange behavior you engage in
here.

Doan

Doan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

The statement that X "LEADS TO" Y IS a statement in causality Kane you
stupid HUMP!
"Stupid HUMP?"

Is that how you refer to the people that publicly kick your ass all over
a few newsgroups?

Like I told you, it's possible for "leads to" to refer to cause, but
there'd be supporting commentary. While "leads to" more often refers to
correlations.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...on&btnG=Search

Read'm and weep stupid, then post your scientific evidence concerning
the risk to non spanked children of developing sociopathy. R R R R R R

A google seaceh proves nothing, Kane!

Here they are, a comin' right atcha. And I'll do it again and again.
Check my posting history.

The search is on your words in your claim, exactly:

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,510,000

Are you so STUPID? None support you claim. Or are you suggesting that
people read through all 3 and a halft millions hits ????

YOU ARE STUPID!!!

Doan

I'll provide proof, again, that you are a stupid liar.

Why, Doan did you snip the actual title citations out of the my post and
not respond to those?

The URL for the search is not the proof. Researchers discussing their
correlated findings using "X leads to Y," ARE, which makes you fraud, or
ignorant of statistical analysis.

No one has to search further than the first page of entries to show that
the claim of Princess Kendra that X leads to Y can only refer to causal
studies is not true.

I'll leave my list re quoted, and add the following more specific
quotation for you and Princess Kendra who claims other's "argue like a
girl,"

( I know a few 'girls' that can run circles around their fellow
scientists, such as Dr. Durrant.....0:-.....around your hero Lazerhead:
he of the pro spanking religious school 'research' efforts. )


If you are chicken **** to, maybe Ken will demonstrate the balls he
pretends to have, and write the University of Oklahoma at OKC, and
inform them they have been teaching an incorrect concept....correlation
using "X leads to Y."

It only takes a single sample to prove that Kendra's all inclusive claim
that "X leads to Y is a causal statement."

Just taint so, boys and girls.

In fact, this particular piece of proof shows exactly what I claimed,
that "X leads to Y" can be used for either.

Is Ken going to apologize for the name calling he started when I
rebutted, successfully it appears, his claim that it can only mean "cause?"

Note that portion:

" correlation - when x occurs, y is likely to occur also. Be sure
to offer some reason for the direction of the relationship (x leads to
y, or y leads to x)
"

Apparently someone is using "x leads to y" for research via correlation.

Enjoy. And don't forget to invite Princess Kendra to blow in and blow
hard. And lie. You've found your match, for a mate. Why don't you two
marry.

http://www.osuokc.edu/arts&science/c...3/causalcm.htm

Tips for Writing Causal Analysis Essays ...

1. Stay focused on your purpose in writing the essay by persuading, or
speculating, or suggesting possibilities for a C/A relationship.

2. Adapt the content and tone to the readers and purpose. For a
persuasive essay, students will need to provide evidence to support
claims and maintain an objective opinion.

3. Determine the type of causal relationship

* causal chain - a causes b which causes c. All of these lead to d

* high probability of a causal link by using one of the following three
types of reasoning:

informal induction - generalization based on limited number of
specific cases

problem: can't be certain that the future will be like the
past. Inductive reasoning gives probable truths.

scientific experimentation - high degree of reliability

correlation - when x occurs, y is likely to occur also. Be sure
to offer some reason for the direction of the relationship (x leads to
y, or y leads to x)

problem: post hoc, ergo propter hoc (before this, after
this) - a logical fallacy that assumes just because a happens before b
that a caused b to happen.

* argue by analogy or precedent - weak because you assume the
reader will accept the validity of the previous argument. Weak also
because the case lacks reliable, viable evidence.
....

Notice the reference to correlation work with a goal of "high degree of
reliability?

That would cover crash dummy testing.

It is not a human subject test, hence it cannot be causal for humans,
only a high degree of reliability if the quality of the dummy and
accuracy of the read outs are RELIABLE AND CONSISTENT.

And it will never show the dummies emotions, or behaviors in the
aftermath of the crash...only their physical condition.

That's why a child sized dummy test would never produce cause related
results.





"
JSTOR: Univariate Residual Cross-Correlation Analysis: An ...
As discussed by Haugh and Box [11], the cross-correlation between the
u's ... The contention that X leads Y is supported at significant level
a if = m 2 2 ...
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This is a Cross correlation analysis, wherein the term
"X leads to Y" is the "contention.

Notice also, from this list below,
"cross correlation
proc(0) = crosscorr(x,y,lead,lag).

XY axis used for drawing crosscorrelations.

And again:

"Henon Map Correlation Dimension
Initial conditions of x = 0, y = 0 will suffice but lead to a few
spurious ... To calculate the correlation dimension, one would normally
generate a time ..."

This very clearly referring to dimension where conditions as presented
referred to a x and y. It's criticism of the method, in fact.

Doan, you are a fraud. You know little to nothing about this matter.

If x and y are used in a cross correlation study, Ipso facto his claim
is bogus.

He has not proven the authors of the article titled it incorrectly and
the material itself is not presented as other than correlation paradigm.




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.... you can't be made to testify against the other when we judge you
for your lies, and other social crimes of misdirection.

On the question "X leads to Y," being limited to causal based research
and not being used for correlation studies, since I was called a liar
and "stupid," for claiming it is used for both types of research:


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.... any apology in the offing, boys, or just more bluster and lies?

It's up to you. It's your credibility not mine.

What would your parents say, Doan? That they didn't spank you enough or
as vigorously as they should?

LOL!

"Establishing a causal relationship is a more difficult task, because it
requires showing that x leads to y, not vice versa and not from some third
variable."

Doan


On 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

... you can't be made to testify against the other when we judge you
for your lies, and other social crimes of misdirection.

On the question "X leads to Y," being limited to causal based research
and not being used for correlation studies, since I was called a liar
and "stupid," for claiming it is used for both types of research:


http://www.google.com/search?q=%22x+...&start=10&sa=N

Results 11 - 20 of about 89 for "x leads to y" +correlation. (0.07
seconds)
[PDF]
Some general results concerning the critical exponents of ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
can be reached from x or x leads to y) ... Simon, B.: Correlation
inequalities and the decay of correlations in ferromagnets. Comm. Math.
...
www.springerlink.com/index/Q4113V23H32RV400.pdf - Similar pages

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But correlation, per se, does not answer the question of which variable
... because it requires showing that x leads to y, not vice versa and
not from some ...
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... any apology in the offing, boys, or just more bluster and lies?

It's up to you. It's your credibility not mine.

What would your parents say, Doan? That they didn't spank you enough or
as vigorously as they should?

This is a gem!

Doan

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

Doan wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:

The statement that X "LEADS TO" Y IS a statement in causality Kane you
stupid HUMP!
"Stupid HUMP?"

Is that how you refer to the people that publicly kick your ass all over
a few newsgroups?

Like I told you, it's possible for "leads to" to refer to cause, but
there'd be supporting commentary. While "leads to" more often refers to
correlations.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...on&btnG=Search

Read'm and weep stupid, then post your scientific evidence concerning
the risk to non spanked children of developing sociopathy. R R R R R R

A google seaceh proves nothing, Kane!

Here they are, a comin' right atcha. And I'll do it again and again.
Check my posting history.

The search is on your words in your claim, exactly:

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,510,000

Are you so STUPID? None support you claim. Or are you suggesting that
people read through all 3 and a halft millions hits ????

YOU ARE STUPID!!!

Doan

I'll provide proof, again, that you are a stupid liar.

Why, Doan did you snip the actual title citations out of the my post and
not respond to those?

The URL for the search is not the proof. Researchers discussing their
correlated findings using "X leads to Y," ARE, which makes you fraud, or
ignorant of statistical analysis.

No one has to search further than the first page of entries to show that
the claim of Princess Kendra that X leads to Y can only refer to causal
studies is not true.

I'll leave my list re quoted, and add the following more specific
quotation for you and Princess Kendra who claims other's "argue like a
girl,"

( I know a few 'girls' that can run circles around their fellow
scientists, such as Dr. Durrant.....0:-.....around your hero Lazerhead:
he of the pro spanking religious school 'research' efforts. )


If you are chicken **** to, maybe Ken will demonstrate the balls he
pretends to have, and write the University of Oklahoma at OKC, and
inform them they have been teaching an incorrect concept....correlation
using "X leads to Y."

It only takes a single sample to prove that Kendra's all inclusive claim
that "X leads to Y is a causal statement."

Just taint so, boys and girls.

In fact, this particular piece of proof shows exactly what I claimed,
that "X leads to Y" can be used for either.

Is Ken going to apologize for the name calling he started when I
rebutted, successfully it appears, his claim that it can only mean "cause?"

Note that portion:

" correlation - when x occurs, y is likely to occur also. Be sure
to offer some reason for the direction of the relationship (x leads to
y, or y leads to x)
"

Apparently someone is using "x leads to y" for research via correlation.

Enjoy. And don't forget to invite Princess Kendra to blow in and blow
hard. And lie. You've found your match, for a mate. Why don't you two
marry.

http://www.osuokc.edu/arts&science/c...3/causalcm.htm

Tips for Writing Causal Analysis Essays ...

1. Stay focused on your purpose in writing the essay by persuading, or
speculating, or suggesting possibilities for a C/A relationship.

2. Adapt the content and tone to the readers and purpose. For a
persuasive essay, students will need to provide evidence to support
claims and maintain an objective opinion.

3. Determine the type of causal relationship

* causal chain - a causes b which causes c. All of these lead to d

* high probability of a causal link by using one of the following three
types of reasoning:

informal induction - generalization based on limited number of
specific cases

problem: can't be certain that the future will be like the
past. Inductive reasoning gives probable truths.

scientific experimentation - high degree of reliability

correlation - when x occurs, y is likely to occur also. Be sure
to offer some reason for the direction of the relationship (x leads to
y, or y leads to x)

problem: post hoc, ergo propter hoc (before this, after
this) - a logical fallacy that assumes just because a happens before b
that a caused b to happen.

* argue by analogy or precedent - weak because you assume the
reader will accept the validity of the previous argument. Weak also
because the case lacks reliable, viable evidence.
...

Notice the reference to correlation work with a goal of "high degree of
reliability?

That would cover crash dummy testing.

It is not a human subject test, hence it cannot be causal for humans,
only a high degree of reliability if the quality of the dummy and
accuracy of the read outs are RELIABLE AND CONSISTENT.

And it will never show the dummies emotions, or behaviors in the
aftermath of the crash...only their physical condition.

That's why a child sized dummy test would never produce cause related
results.





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As discussed by Haugh and Box [11], the cross-correlation between the
u's ... The contention that X leads Y is supported at significant level
a if = m 2 2 ...
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This is a Cross correlation analysis, wherein the term
"X leads to Y" is the "contention.

Notice also, from this list below,
"cross correlation
proc(0) = crosscorr(x,y,lead,lag).

XY axis used for drawing crosscorrelations.

And again:

"Henon Map Correlation Dimension
Initial conditions of x = 0, y = 0 will suffice but lead to a few
spurious ... To calculate the correlation dimension, one would normally
generate a time ..."

This very clearly referring to dimension where conditions as presented
referred to a x and y. It's criticism of the method, in fact.

Doan, you are a fraud. You know little to nothing about this matter.

If x and y are used in a cross correlation study, Ipso facto his claim
is bogus.

He has not proven the authors of the article titled it incorrectly and
the material itself is not presented as other than correlation paradigm.




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