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Anyone else awake at this hour ?
My dear son has decided not to want to sleep anymore between 1am and 4 am odd Not happy Apart from lossing sleep I am slowly starting to pull hairs out of my head as I have no idea what is wrong with him or why he is doing it. He seems to want a feed (bottle), has one, sleeps for about 30 mins and then wakes up as if something had scared him. Sometimes he wont take the bottle. Over the last week I have tried panadol, changing sheets, room temp, noise, milk, nappy, swaddling, burping and he just wont sleep It seems he is only content to sleep in my arms at this hour of the morning and the minute I put him down he wakes up again and starts screaming again... crying and screaming, not loud but enough to keep me awake. So now I dont hold him, I just comfort hug though the bars of cot and then lay him down and rub his back or face or head and sing quietly to him (but it makes no difference) DD was soooooo good, she started sleeping though the night at 3 months and hasn't looked back, and the one time we had trouble with her we did controled crying and it settled her back into a routine and back to sleep. It almost seems like my son carn't fall asleep again and then becomes over tired and even harder to settle. I wish he could consider sleeping though out the night soon Any idea's or something I am missing ? Nic Mum to 3 1/2 yo dd whom is sleeping Mum to 11 mo DS whom is wide awake and noisy! |
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Nic nlmilesatoptushomedotcomdotaunospam wrote in message u... Anyone else awake at this hour ? My dear son has decided not to want to sleep anymore between 1am and 4 am odd I'm awake... it is 5:35pm here though. Not happy I'm not very happy between 1 and 4am either... Debbie (with sympathies) |
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Hi - How much is your baby napping? Maybe cut back on naps? We had to limit our son to 90 minutes of daytime napping at this age or else he'd wake for several hours during the night, ready to play. By age two the naps (still essential to have!) were limited to 30 minutes. By the way, it took only a few days for our son to become accustomed to the shorter naps, and he started waking up ready for action instead of being sleepy and grumpy. Sometimes he even woke from his naps on his own, the way a well-rested child often does. And nights were MUCH better ... Just a thought, --Beth Kevles http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would like me to reply. |
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"Beth Kevles" wrote in message Hi - How much is your baby napping? Maybe cut back on naps? We had to limit our son to 90 minutes of daytime napping at this age or else he'd wake for several hours during the night, ready to play. By age two the naps (still essential to have!) were limited to 30 minutes. By the way, it took only a few days for our son to become accustomed to the shorter naps, and he started waking up ready for action instead of being sleepy and grumpy. Sometimes he even woke from his naps on his own, the way a well-rested child often does. And nights were MUCH better ... Good in theroy but at the moment he doesn't really nap much during the day. He naps between 1 1/2 hours to 4 hours give or take, some times that is a morning nap only and then by 8pm at night he is tired big time. Other times he naps in bursts morning nap of 1 hour and then after lunch nap of 20 mins and then after noon nap at about 3pm of 1 hour. And a rare day he doesn't nap at all and he still wakes up at night. I figure that the 1 1/2 hours to 4 hours sleep in a day is about norm for a 11mo boy.... then again it dont matter if its not, Its not like its going to change his night time habbit of waking up. We could go for weeks with the same schedule with naps and then we lose the routine and the more I try to keep certain times the more he fights sleep. I suspect or rather I feel like blaming the daylight savings time as since we went on it, its thrown him and dd out of sync. I suspect he is going to end up like dd and stop taking naps at the age of 2. We have also tryed co sleeping thinking that would work but he keeps me and dh awake then. Hope this makes sense... My head is thinking sleep.... Nic Just a thought, --Beth Kevles http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would like me to reply. |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... Nic nlmilesatoptushomedotcomdotaunospam wrote: : Anyone else awake at this hour ? : My dear son has decided not to want to sleep anymore between 1am and 4 am : odd : : Not happy : : [ . . . ] In addition to Beth's suggestion of curtailing daytime naps, I'd suggest a technique that worked pretty well for us, tweaking feedings. During the day, we would feed just enough to satisfy DD. As soon as we saw a chance to cut off a feeding, we would. At night, we did just the opposite, try to get her to eat as much as possible at each feeding. It helped a lot. How did giving her more at night help ? My brain isn't thinking to good but it seems strange to do that. Did you feed solids at night ? or just bottles ? I guess if he ate more at night he would have a fuller tummy and therefore might sleep longer...Is this what happened with your girl ? I'm wide away now, btw, but it's the middle of the day here (East Coast USA). yeah your on monday whilst we are in tuesday morning ! Pleasant dreams! Richard Micaela's dad |
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My DS's sleep patterns seem to change radically
when he is either teething or has a growth spurt. These we just ride out, as he usually returns to normal. At 13 months we cut his nap to one 2 hour nap per day in the afternoons. This helped to. Richard's suggestion of a big dinner help a bit too. Good luck, jojo "Nic" nlmilesatoptushomedotcomdotaunospam wrote in message u... Anyone else awake at this hour ? My dear son has decided not to want to sleep anymore between 1am and 4 am odd Not happy Apart from lossing sleep I am slowly starting to pull hairs out of my head as I have no idea what is wrong with him or why he is doing it. He seems to want a feed (bottle), has one, sleeps for about 30 mins and then wakes up as if something had scared him. Sometimes he wont take the bottle. Over the last week I have tried panadol, changing sheets, room temp, noise, milk, nappy, swaddling, burping and he just wont sleep It seems he is only content to sleep in my arms at this hour of the morning and the minute I put him down he wakes up again and starts screaming again... crying and screaming, not loud but enough to keep me awake. So now I dont hold him, I just comfort hug though the bars of cot and then lay him down and rub his back or face or head and sing quietly to him (but it makes no difference) DD was soooooo good, she started sleeping though the night at 3 months and hasn't looked back, and the one time we had trouble with her we did controled crying and it settled her back into a routine and back to sleep. It almost seems like my son carn't fall asleep again and then becomes over tired and even harder to settle. I wish he could consider sleeping though out the night soon Any idea's or something I am missing ? Nic Mum to 3 1/2 yo dd whom is sleeping Mum to 11 mo DS whom is wide awake and noisy! |
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Nic wrote:
Good in theroy but at the moment he doesn't really nap much during the day. He naps between 1 1/2 hours to 4 hours give or take, some times that is a morning nap only and then by 8pm at night he is tired big time. Other times he naps in bursts morning nap of 1 hour and then after lunch nap of 20 mins and then after noon nap at about 3pm of 1 hour. And a rare day he doesn't nap at all and he still wakes up at night. I figure that the 1 1/2 hours to 4 hours sleep in a day is about norm for a 11mo boy.... then again it dont matter if its not, Its not like its going to change his night time habbit of waking up. We could go for weeks with the same schedule with naps and then we lose the routine and the more I try to keep certain times the more he fights sleep. I suspect or rather I feel like blaming the daylight savings time as since we went on it, its thrown him and dd out of sync. Having daytime sleep all over the place very well could be causing night waking. I know that being rigid about sleep can backfire, but I would really be tempted to have a general nap plan (either a morning and afternoon nap or just an early afternoon nap, depending on how much sleep you think he needs) and then try to stick with it. I wouldn't force sleep at the appointed time. Rather, I'd have a routine that involves giving him the opportunity to nap at roughly the same time each day. Then, if he didn't nap, I would *NOT* let him sleep other times. I'd keep him busy and active until the next "normal" sleeping time (whether that was the next nap or bedtime). I think with a little gentle encouragement you might find that things even out. If you've got a kid who's really likely to be disrupted by things like daylight savings, you might plan ahead and move his schedule little by little so that he's in synch when the time change occurs. Best wishes, Ericka |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... Nic nlmilesatoptushomedotcomdotaunospam wrote: : Anyone else awake at this hour ? : My dear son has decided not to want to sleep anymore between 1am and 4 am : odd : : Not happy : : [ . . . ] In addition to Beth's suggestion of curtailing daytime naps, I'd suggest a technique that worked pretty well for us, tweaking feedings. During the day, we would feed just enough to satisfy DD. As soon as we saw a chance to cut off a feeding, we would. At night, we did just the opposite, try to get her to eat as much as possible at each feeding. It helped a lot. I'm wide away now, btw, but it's the middle of the day here (East Coast USA). Pleasant dreams! Richard Micaela's dad I think I am being wicked dense. Why would you want her to eat at night and not during the day? That sounds backwards. Thanks S |
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Richard wrote in message
No solids, just ending a feeding as soon as possible during the day and extending it as long as possible at night. I think getting hungry sooner and not feeling "full" kept her awake during the day, and a tummy full of milk put her to sleep at night. It worked pretty well for us. I think the opposite works better for most people. Tanking them up during the day seemed to help with over night feedings and waking. Keeping to a close routine during the day worked better for us also. By the time my girls were one year old, I fed them lunch and it was nap time. I stuck to that routine and my girls slept very well at night, from an early age. -- Sue (mom to three girls) I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World... |
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HI -- I think that Richard (eat at night not during the day) must have meant REALLY filling up that tummy in the evening, and if there's a night waking, making sure that tummy gets filled up again as full as possible so as to encourage sleep, the way we all get after a big meal. We "topped off" our kids with food in the evening until they were four or five years old. Without full tummies, they had trouble falling asleep even if they were tired. I'd forgotten about that until Richard mentioned it ... We have very different food issues now that they can reach the food for themselves from the cupboards. --Beth Kevles http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would like me to reply. |
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