Acceptable losses...

"Kane" wrote in message
om...
(Greg Hanson) wrote in message
. com...
THROWING CHILDREN INTO CLOTHES DRYERS.
Where the heck did THAT come from?

From the article that you artfully dodged by snipping, where else?
That's about the extent of your cleverness in responding with lies.
Sad, idnit?

Kane says I'm sick? Why THANK YOU.

You are welcome. You and the clothes drying person have a lot in
common...the idea that a child is just a possession and its feelings
and safety are secondary to your own desires.

How's that couch doin'? Sometimes acetone will break a seal. Try it on
your ass.

Reforming CPS from the inside?

It would be interesting if you, or The Plant, or The Doananator, or
Ol' Leaky would respond to what was said instead of making it up as
you go along.

I said, positive change, and case by case issues such as Dan Sullivan
and others like him nail the system with, worker by worker, supervisor
by supervisor, district by district.

CPS ought to hire Sullivan. And listen to him.

Or do you think YOU could reform CPS best?

The experts who have studied the agency culture

Tend to have, universally, their own little ax to grind and bitch to
pitch.

have said that meaningful reform from within is
impossible.

Isn't it odd though that child abuse is decreasing? Must be the stars.

You answer your own question... scroll down a bit and see.


They've had MORE than TEN YEARS after they were
told to put various avenues of redress into place.

Liar. They were NOT told that many of things NOW being claimed as
"musts" and "have toos" where such.

Times up.

Nope. You don't know what you are talking about.

Time for law suits.

Stop drooling on the keyboard.

The Federal Judges in IL and across the US agree.

All of them?

That one supervising a Consent Decree is steamed.

I love it when you dipwads think everyone can read your mind. Look
THAT up in the DSM-IV, bubbah.

CT and a few other state CPS agencies are
now getting more FEDERAL guidance thanks
to their abject ineptitude.

Actually it's because the bar was set so high that NO state could have
passed all elements being evaluated. It isn't a punitive process
(except in the minds of child and family hating self deluding
twits)..it's a learning process for both the states AND the feds.

The rules have changed. CPS was faulted for abusing their authority and
extending themselves into matters that should not be their purveue.

The rate of child abuse... probably hasnt changed all that much.. except in
defination.

bobb



The problems with the states tend to lie more in The Problem, than in
the states. The problem is much bigger than estimated. The solutions
do not reside sufficiently in the mandates IMPOSED ON THE STATES BY
THE FEDS WHO ARE AT SOME REMOVE FROM EACH STATES ACTUALLY POPULATIONS
AND THEIR CHALLENGES.

Bureaucracy is about THE WORST way to actually
get something done.

Could be. Depends on what that something might be, now doesn't it?

A few less assholes like you wandering the countryside looking for a
couch to plant their asses in might reduce the problem quite a bit. I
think you should be added to the hunting season, with a bounty paid
for each head.

Big Brother only does WORSE than parents.

No, not really. Just not up to the levels that some parents present.

What has been learned by CAPTA and ASFA and followup studies is that
you can't stop child abuse by waiting for the abuse to happen.
Prevention is, as is being reinvented (child welfare workers at line
level been saying this for years, and being ignored for the most
part), the real solution to child abuse and neglect.

The problem that presented was NOT met by the feds, as per usual. THEY
shifted the emphasis from family support systems (CAPTA) to child
safety.

ASFA was an attempt to, instead of swing the pendulum, as had been the
case before, balance child safety and family support services. In
theory it was not a bad idea...problem was the FEDS, as usual, failed
to see what the states was telling the....kind of wishful thinking
that the problem was simple and based on criminality.

In theory.. it was a bad idea. Just look around, we are living with a lot
of bad ideas. Some we're stuck with... like taxes.. because the never go
away. Then there are those who want to maintain the status quo only
because they held such firm convictions they would certainly look like the
ass they are if they suddenly took a right turn.



The problem, of course, was about mental incapacities of various
kinds, intergenerational child rearing information shortfalls (You
****ers don't know how to raise children safely), and DRUGS, of the
non legal variety. Alcohol problems didn't go away either.

The Reagan years saw (yes, that far back) huge cuts in public funding
of rehab programs and went to enforcement (The WOSDs), thus taking
monies away from family support systems and services. Hell, publically
funded youth centers were entirely wiped out, apparently on the
grounds teens don't vote...and it was one of the most successful
programs for reduction of teen crime, pregnancy, drug use, that have
ever been tried.

The FEDS need suing for screwing up, not the states, dummy...but suing
does nothing but remove MORE money from programs and OUT OF THE
POCKETS OF THE PUBLIC. The settlements come from taxes, nitwit.

Child supervision, stay-at-home moms, and responsible parents.. do not cost
money. There are tons of community resouces, public and private... many
already in place such as the schools, church based programs, and commnity
progras such as the boy scouts that could, and often do work, in place of
the state.

bobb


Oh, wait. YOU don't pay taxes, you just want some of the money.

Kane

"Kane" wrote in message
om...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:43:45 -0600, "bobb"
wrote:


"Kane" wrote in message
. com...
On 17 Jan 2004 23:35:59 -0800, (Greg Hanson)
wrote:

Bobb wrote
Gee.. sounds to me big business missed a golden
opportunity. We could still have merry-go-rounds
with a law mandating helmuts, knee pads, and
helmuts.

Of course that would have led to speed controls,
age limits, terms of use, warning signs,
parental control, safety inspections and daily
monitoring.

New jobs could have been created with the
possible inclusion of advanced technology to
shut down, speed up, or sense over-load
conditions.

It still not too late... cuz I see see slides
here and there. And, what about swings?

Bobb: Helmut is a German first name vs. Helmet.
Do you actually read or watch world news?
Perhaps the prime minister's name from news
became a bit like a subliminal suggestion.

Thanks for posting a list like this before.

Spelling Nazi's are pukes that can't think.

If he were trying to change the meaning of something you'd be right
to
correct. But since it is either a typo or a simple spelling error,
you
prove your pukehood. Nice going, scumsucker.

Despite my sometimes zealous attacks on bobb for what he and I
disagree about he is ten times the man you are, and 20 times the
caring human being, but then it's not all that hard, given who you
are.

As for the labels: if it weren't for assholes that are suit happy,
would these strange warning labels all be needed?

I'm particularly taken with the one on children not being allowed
to
play in the clothes dryer. Wanna bet that a child hasn't been hurt
by
being put in a clothes dryer by a parent, or allowing a child to
play
in the laundry room unsupervised?

I wonder how closely these children were being supervised, and if
maybe a larger warning label would have tipped off the stupid
parent
that children that young should not be left unattended?

Kids explore.

Yep. Age appropriate exploration is something I scream at people about
when they try to stop children from doing it....BY SPANKING AND
OTHERWISE PUNISHING THE CHILD.

They love cliimbing inside or things.. even cardboard boxes
and the like.

Yep. Age appropriate exploration is something I scream at people about
when they try to stop children from doing it....BY SPANKING AND
OTHERWISE PUNISHING THE CHILD.

How many became hurt or injured from a dishwasher?

Not too many because parents with brains don't let them climb inside
and pull the door shut behind them. Nor do they, like the mom that
decided her baby was wet and the clothes dryer would be just the
thing, turn the damn dishwasher on with a baby inside.

How many
people know know knives are sharp?

Actually I've found people generally to be pretty stupid about knives,
and other tools.

Maybe true.. but don't make it my problem. I've cut myself all to often and
that ain't your problem either.


How many even read the labels on
breakfast food boxes (except to pass time), care, or even undertand
labels
or any sort.

People are dumb, aren't they? I mean look at these ngs.

That's a matter of reference. Have to wonder how many think you are
'dumb'... and, for that matter, myself, too.




Even kids come with warning labels, today. Yeh, their not stuck to
his body
or printed his forehead but they do exist.

Please explain.

Mommies been trading info on babies for a hundred thousand years or
so. Putting it in writing is the same as putting other important
information in writing...a habit we humans seem too have developed
long ago.

They are just as foolish ...

Info on how to care for babies is foolish? Hmmm...I'll have to give
that some deeeeeep thought.

Don't get too deep. Old and tried proven methods usually get abandoned in
lieu of someone else's grand idea of how things should be done.. or not
done.

they are all too readily enforced by do-gooders and hand-wringing
know--it-alls.

Actually YOU are as guilty of that as anyone, and you are mostly badly
informed, so YOU are peddling the dangerous stuff and should be
stopped, but there you are.....blithely babbling on with your nonsesen
and no one stopping you.

Not so. I am not imposing my will on anyone nor do I fault anyone for what
they do. I object to the state imposing a one-shoe-fits-all mentality on
society. I also object to do-gooders who just can't seem to keep their
nose out of their neigbor's business.


Why should we stop folks that have better information and are much
more reliable than YOU bobb?


To which better information to do allude? Yours? Mine? A committe study?
The schools are a shambles.. yet they are constantly studied. Food
products.. once considered unsafe... are now safe. Juvenile delquency... a
much studied issue has made no progress (by what ever definition you choose)
at all. Jails are full of errant parents, minor theives, and most
recently... teen agers!

Dumb? Yeh, I'd say so. We have often forfieted logic in place of someone's
else call for cruel punishment, untempered by either compassion or reason.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to raise a child... and as you well
know.. there are a few books that should've never been written yet people
did. Individuality was never taken into consideration. Today, if a child
doesn't talk, who weigh enough, or crawl, or sit up.. on schedule.. parents
run to the doctor who often receive less creditably than some off-the-wall
author.

Dumb, you say? One doens't have to look far.. or even beyond a mirror
sometimes.

bobb




bobb

Got another one in the 10 ring bobb. I knew you'd drop out of sanity
mode and return to your gobbling and scratchin'

Kane




I don't know if the parents sued the owners and manufacturers
though...but I'll bet they considered it if they were anything like
YOU.

http://www.childrensdefense.org/chil...n/2002_601.php

And that piece is actually an attempt to blame "the state" for the
problem, instead of WHO THE STATE ACTUALLY IS...sick as it makes my
stomach, YOU, asshole, are The State...

And.........

I thought long and hard about posting this one. It's really too
much
to bear thinking about too closely, but I want people to know what
you
are and what you stand for, along with your asshole buddies that
pretend to want to reform CPS when in fact all they want to do is
dance in the blood of the families that have contact with CPS...so
I'm
going to post it:

http://www.freedomofthought.com/archives/000420.html

Don't think too much about it. It's just another "We Doan Need No
Steenkin' CPS" article, after all. And next you'll assholes will be
claiming it's all CPS fault.


But returning to the thought on The State, and the fact you are a
citizen patoooeeee:

While you don't vote, you don't earn money and you don't pay taxes,
you STILL ARE THE STATE...and you express all this concern for
matters
you do NOTHING about but babble by whining and complaining and
agitating in a USENET newsgroup...tsk, Whore, tsk.

Get a job at least. Hell, some people are doing any kind of labor
in
your area...at least that's what your butt buddy The Leakin'
Deakin'
showed us with a newspaper citation (that he failed to read and
made
mistaken claims about R R R R R).

Get off your ass, apologize to the court, and the SO, and hit the
road. If you admitted your guilt and the mother claimed she was
kicking you out...do you have any idea how that might impress the
court?

They are waiting for her to show some guts and dump you. I don't
pray
of course, but I'll make an exception. I'll be happy to pray to any
and all gods that she does wake up and whip your ass out of the
house
if it will make it happen.

The little girl deserves to know that her mother loves her more
than
she loves YOU, a ****ing gigolo whore.

Sleep well. We are all wishing you the best of a new year.

Kane


Wackiest Warning Labels Ever
Warning on a bottle of drain cleaner: "If you do not understand,
or
cannot read, all directions, cautions and warnings, do not use
this
product."

That warning is the first place winner of the 2004 Wacky Warning
Label
Contest. The Michigan Lawsuit Abuse Watch, a group whose goal is
to
show that the fear of frivolous lawsuits has led to a loss of
corporate common sense, sponsors the annual contest for the
wackiest
warning labels.

"Wacky warning labels are a sign of our lawsuit-plagued times,"
Robert
B. Dorigo Jones, president of the nonprofit Michigan Lawsuit Abuse
Watch group, said in the news release announcing the contest
winners.
"It used to be that if someone spilled coffee in their lap, they
simply called themselves clumsy. Today, too many people are
calling
themselves an attorney."

Second place: On a snow sled: "Bewa sled may develop high speed
under certain snow conditions."

Third place: On a 12-inch-high storage rack for compact discs: "Do
not
use as a ladder."

Fourth place: A 5-inch fishing lure with three nasty steel hooks
advises it is "Harmful if swallowed." Too bad fish can't read!

Previous winners in the "Wacky Warning Label Contest" are
presented
here for your amusement and amazement:

A warning on an electric router made for carpenters cautions,
"This
product not intended for use as a dental drill."

A warning label found on a baby stroller cautions the user:
"Remove
child before folding."

A bottle of prescription sleeping pills says, "Warning: May cause
drowsiness."

A sticker on a toilet at a public facility in Ann Arbor, Michigan
actually warns: "Recycled flush water unsafe for drinking."

A CD player carries this unusual warning: "Do not use the
Ultradisc2000 as a projectile in a catapult."

An "Aim-n-Flame" fireplace lighter cautions, "Do not use near
fire,
flame, or sparks."

A label on a hand-held massager advises consumers not to use
"while
sleeping or unconscious."

A container of underarm deodorant says, "Caution: Do not spray in
eyes."

A cartridge for a laser printer warns, "Do not eat toner."

A household iron warns users: "Never iron clothes while they are
being
worn."

A label with a hair dryer reads, "Never use hair dryer while
sleeping."

A 13-inch wheel on a wheelbarrow warns: "Not intended for highway
use."

A cardboard car sunshield that keeps sun off the dashboard warns,
"Do
not drive with sunshield in place."

A bathroom heater says: "This product is not to be used in
bathrooms."

A can of self-defense pepper spray warns users: "May irritate
eyes."

A warning on a pair of shin guards manufactured for bicyclists
says:
"Shin pads cannot protect any part of the body they do not cover."

A popular manufactured fireplace log warns: "Caution: Risk of
Fire."

A box of birthday cake candles says: "DO NOT use soft wax as ear
plugs
or for any other function that involves insertion into a body
cavity."

"Do not use snow blower on the roof."

"Do not allow children to play in the dishwasher."

Kane wrote:
On 17 Jan 2004 23:35:59 -0800, (Greg Hanson)
wrote:

Bobb wrote
Gee.. sounds to me big business missed a golden
opportunity. We could still have merry-go-rounds
with a law mandating helmuts, knee pads, and
helmuts.

Of course that would have led to speed controls,
age limits, terms of use, warning signs,
parental control, safety inspections and daily
monitoring.

New jobs could have been created with the
possible inclusion of advanced technology to
shut down, speed up, or sense over-load
conditions.

It still not too late... cuz I see see slides
here and there. And, what about swings?

Bobb: Helmut is a German first name vs. Helmet.
Do you actually read or watch world news?
Perhaps the prime minister's name from news
became a bit like a subliminal suggestion.

Thanks for posting a list like this before.

Spelling Nazi's are pukes that can't think.

If he were trying to change the meaning of something you'd be
right to correct. But since it is either a typo or a simple
spelling error, you prove your pukehood. Nice going, scumsucker.

Despite my sometimes zealous attacks on bobb for what he and I
disagree about he is ten times the man you are, and 20 times the
caring human being, but then it's not all that hard, given who you
are.

As for the labels: if it weren't for assholes that are suit happy,
would these strange warning labels all be needed?

I'm particularly taken with the one on children not being allowed
to play in the clothes dryer. Wanna bet that a child hasn't been
hurt by being put in a clothes dryer by a parent, or allowing a
child to play in the laundry room unsupervised?

I wonder how closely these children were being supervised, and if
maybe a larger warning label would have tipped off the stupid
parent that children that young should not be left unattended?

I don't know if the parents sued the owners and manufacturers
though...but I'll bet they considered it if they were anything
like YOU.

http://www.childrensdefense.org/chil...n/2002_601.php

And that piece is actually an attempt to blame "the state" for the
problem, instead of WHO THE STATE ACTUALLY IS...sick as it makes
my stomach, YOU, asshole, are The State...

And.........

I thought long and hard about posting this one. It's really too
much to bear thinking about too closely, but I want people to
know what you are and what you stand for, along with your asshole
buddies that pretend to want to reform CPS when in fact all they
want to do is dance in the blood of the families that have
contact with CPS...so I'm going to post it:

http://www.freedomofthought.com/archives/000420.html

Don't think too much about it. It's just another "We Doan Need No
Steenkin' CPS" article, after all. And next you'll assholes will
be claiming it's all CPS fault.


But returning to the thought on The State, and the fact you are a
citizen patoooeeee:

While you don't vote, you don't earn money and you don't pay
taxes, you STILL ARE THE STATE...and you express all this concern
for matters you do NOTHING about but babble by whining and
complaining and agitating in a USENET newsgroup...tsk, Whore, tsk.

Get a job at least. Hell, some people are doing any kind of labor
in your area...at least that's what your butt buddy The Leakin'
Deakin' showed us with a newspaper citation (that he failed to
read and made mistaken claims about R R R R R).

Get off your ass, apologize to the court, and the SO, and hit the
road. If you admitted your guilt and the mother claimed she was
kicking you out...do you have any idea how that might impress the
court?

They are waiting for her to show some guts and dump you. I don't
pray of course, but I'll make an exception. I'll be happy to pray
to any and all gods that she does wake up and whip your ass out
of the house if it will make it happen.

The little girl deserves to know that her mother loves her more
than she loves YOU, a ****ing gigolo whore.

Sleep well. We are all wishing you the best of a new year.

Kane


Wackiest Warning Labels Ever
Warning on a bottle of drain cleaner: "If you do not understand,
or cannot read, all directions, cautions and warnings, do not
use this product."

That warning is the first place winner of the 2004 Wacky Warning
Label Contest. The Michigan Lawsuit Abuse Watch, a group whose
goal is to show that the fear of frivolous lawsuits has led to a
loss of corporate common sense, sponsors the annual contest for
the wackiest warning labels.

"Wacky warning labels are a sign of our lawsuit-plagued times,"
Robert B. Dorigo Jones, president of the nonprofit Michigan
Lawsuit Abuse Watch group, said in the news release announcing
the contest winners. "It used to be that if someone spilled
coffee in their lap, they simply called themselves clumsy.
Today, too many people are calling themselves an attorney."

Second place: On a snow sled: "Bewa sled may develop high
speed under certain snow conditions."

Third place: On a 12-inch-high storage rack for compact discs:
"Do not use as a ladder."

Fourth place: A 5-inch fishing lure with three nasty steel hooks
advises it is "Harmful if swallowed." Too bad fish can't read!

Previous winners in the "Wacky Warning Label Contest" are
presented here for your amusement and amazement:

A warning on an electric router made for carpenters cautions,
"This product not intended for use as a dental drill."

A warning label found on a baby stroller cautions the user:
"Remove child before folding."

A bottle of prescription sleeping pills says, "Warning: May cause
drowsiness."

A sticker on a toilet at a public facility in Ann Arbor, Michigan
actually warns: "Recycled flush water unsafe for drinking."

A CD player carries this unusual warning: "Do not use the
Ultradisc2000 as a projectile in a catapult."

An "Aim-n-Flame" fireplace lighter cautions, "Do not use near
fire, flame, or sparks."

A label on a hand-held massager advises consumers not to use
"while sleeping or unconscious."

A container of underarm deodorant says, "Caution: Do not spray in
eyes."

A cartridge for a laser printer warns, "Do not eat toner."

A household iron warns users: "Never iron clothes while they are
being worn."

A label with a hair dryer reads, "Never use hair dryer while
sleeping."

A 13-inch wheel on a wheelbarrow warns: "Not intended for highway
use."

A cardboard car sunshield that keeps sun off the dashboard
warns, "Do not drive with sunshield in place."

A bathroom heater says: "This product is not to be used in
bathrooms."

A can of self-defense pepper spray warns users: "May irritate
eyes."

A warning on a pair of shin guards manufactured for bicyclists
says: "Shin pads cannot protect any part of the body they do not
cover."

A popular manufactured fireplace log warns: "Caution: Risk of
Fire."

A box of birthday cake candles says: "DO NOT use soft wax as ear
plugs or for any other function that involves insertion into a
body cavity."

"Do not use snow blower on the roof."

"Do not allow children to play in the dishwasher."

Don't you just hate people that quote an entire post to add one line.
Oh, hell, now I've forgotten what I was going to say.
Mommie

bobb wrote:
"Kane" wrote in message
om...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:43:45 -0600, "bobb"
wrote:


"Kane" wrote in message
om...
On 17 Jan 2004 23:35:59 -0800, (Greg
Hanson) wrote:

Bobb wrote
Gee.. sounds to me big business missed a golden
opportunity. We could still have merry-go-rounds
with a law mandating helmuts, knee pads, and
helmuts.

Of course that would have led to speed controls,
age limits, terms of use, warning signs,
parental control, safety inspections and daily
monitoring.

New jobs could have been created with the
possible inclusion of advanced technology to
shut down, speed up, or sense over-load
conditions.

It still not too late... cuz I see see slides
here and there. And, what about swings?

Bobb: Helmut is a German first name vs. Helmet.
Do you actually read or watch world news?
Perhaps the prime minister's name from news
became a bit like a subliminal suggestion.

Thanks for posting a list like this before.

Spelling Nazi's are pukes that can't think.

If he were trying to change the meaning of something you'd be
right
to
correct. But since it is either a typo or a simple spelling
error,
you
prove your pukehood. Nice going, scumsucker.

Despite my sometimes zealous attacks on bobb for what he and I
disagree about he is ten times the man you are, and 20 times
the caring human being, but then it's not all that hard, given
who you are.

As for the labels: if it weren't for assholes that are suit
happy, would these strange warning labels all be needed?

I'm particularly taken with the one on children not being
allowed
to
play in the clothes dryer. Wanna bet that a child hasn't been
hurt
by
being put in a clothes dryer by a parent, or allowing a child
to
play
in the laundry room unsupervised?

I wonder how closely these children were being supervised, and
if maybe a larger warning label would have tipped off the
stupid
parent
that children that young should not be left unattended?

Kids explore.

Yep. Age appropriate exploration is something I scream at people
about when they try to stop children from doing it....BY
SPANKING AND
OTHERWISE PUNISHING THE CHILD.

They love cliimbing inside or things.. even cardboard boxes
and the like.

Yep. Age appropriate exploration is something I scream at people
about when they try to stop children from doing it....BY
SPANKING AND
OTHERWISE PUNISHING THE CHILD.

How many became hurt or injured from a dishwasher?

Not too many because parents with brains don't let them climb
inside
and pull the door shut behind them. Nor do they, like the mom
that decided her baby was wet and the clothes dryer would be
just the
thing, turn the damn dishwasher on with a baby inside.

How many
people know know knives are sharp?

Actually I've found people generally to be pretty stupid about
knives, and other tools.

Maybe true.. but don't make it my problem. I've cut myself all
to often and that ain't your problem either.


How many even read the labels on
breakfast food boxes (except to pass time), care, or even
undertand labels or any sort.

People are dumb, aren't they? I mean look at these ngs.

That's a matter of reference. Have to wonder how many think you
are 'dumb'... and, for that matter, myself, too.




Even kids come with warning labels, today. Yeh, their not
stuck to
his body
or printed his forehead but they do exist.

Please explain.

Mommies been trading info on babies for a hundred thousand years
or
so. Putting it in writing is the same as putting other important
information in writing...a habit we humans seem too have
developed
long ago.

They are just as foolish ...

Info on how to care for babies is foolish? Hmmm...I'll have to
give
that some deeeeeep thought.

Don't get too deep. Old and tried proven methods usually get
abandoned in lieu of someone else's grand idea of how things
should be done.. or not done.

they are all too readily enforced by do-gooders and
hand-wringing know--it-alls.

Actually YOU are as guilty of that as anyone, and you are mostly
badly informed, so YOU are peddling the dangerous stuff and
should be
stopped, but there you are.....blithely babbling on with your
nonsesen and no one stopping you.

Not so. I am not imposing my will on anyone nor do I fault
anyone for what they do. I object to the state imposing a
one-shoe-fits-all mentality on society. I also object to
do-gooders who just can't seem to keep their nose out of their
neigbor's business.


Why should we stop folks that have better information and are
much
more reliable than YOU bobb?


To which better information to do allude? Yours? Mine? A
committe study? The schools are a shambles.. yet they are
constantly studied. Food products.. once considered unsafe...
are now safe. Juvenile delquency... a much studied issue has
made no progress (by what ever definition you choose) at all.
Jails are full of errant parents, minor theives, and most
recently... teen agers!

Dumb? Yeh, I'd say so. We have often forfieted logic in place
of someone's else call for cruel punishment, untempered by either
compassion or reason.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to raise a child... and as you
well know.. there are a few books that should've never been
written yet people did. Individuality was never taken into
consideration. Today, if a child doesn't talk, who weigh enough,
or crawl, or sit up.. on schedule.. parents run to the doctor who
often receive less creditably than some off-the-wall author.

Dumb, you say? One doens't have to look far.. or even beyond a
mirror sometimes.

bobb




bobb

Got another one in the 10 ring bobb. I knew you'd drop out of
sanity
mode and return to your gobbling and scratchin'

Kane




I don't know if the parents sued the owners and manufacturers
though...but I'll bet they considered it if they were anything
like YOU.

http://www.childrensdefense.org/chil...n/2002_601.php

And that piece is actually an attempt to blame "the state" for
the problem, instead of WHO THE STATE ACTUALLY IS...sick as it
makes my stomach, YOU, asshole, are The State...

And.........

I thought long and hard about posting this one. It's really too
much
to bear thinking about too closely, but I want people to know
what
you
are and what you stand for, along with your asshole buddies
that pretend to want to reform CPS when in fact all they want
to do is dance in the blood of the families that have contact
with CPS...so
I'm
going to post it:

http://www.freedomofthought.com/archives/000420.html

Don't think too much about it. It's just another "We Doan Need
No Steenkin' CPS" article, after all. And next you'll assholes
will be claiming it's all CPS fault.


But returning to the thought on The State, and the fact you
are a citizen patoooeeee:

While you don't vote, you don't earn money and you don't pay
taxes, you STILL ARE THE STATE...and you express all this
concern for
matters
you do NOTHING about but babble by whining and complaining and
agitating in a USENET newsgroup...tsk, Whore, tsk.

Get a job at least. Hell, some people are doing any kind of
labor
in
your area...at least that's what your butt buddy The Leakin'
Deakin'
showed us with a newspaper citation (that he failed to read and
made
mistaken claims about R R R R R).

Get off your ass, apologize to the court, and the SO, and hit
the road. If you admitted your guilt and the mother claimed
she was kicking you out...do you have any idea how that might
impress the court?

They are waiting for her to show some guts and dump you. I
don't
pray
of course, but I'll make an exception. I'll be happy to pray
to any and all gods that she does wake up and whip your ass
out of the
house
if it will make it happen.

The little girl deserves to know that her mother loves her more
than
she loves YOU, a ****ing gigolo whore.

Sleep well. We are all wishing you the best of a new year.

Kane


Wackiest Warning Labels Ever
Warning on a bottle of drain cleaner: "If you do not
understand,
or
cannot read, all directions, cautions and warnings, do not use
this
product."

That warning is the first place winner of the 2004 Wacky
Warning Label Contest. The Michigan Lawsuit Abuse Watch, a
group whose goal is
to
show that the fear of frivolous lawsuits has led to a loss of
corporate common sense, sponsors the annual contest for the
wackiest
warning labels.

"Wacky warning labels are a sign of our lawsuit-plagued
times," Robert B. Dorigo Jones, president of the nonprofit
Michigan Lawsuit Abuse Watch group, said in the news release
announcing the contest
winners.
"It used to be that if someone spilled coffee in their lap,
they simply called themselves clumsy. Today, too many people
are
calling
themselves an attorney."

Second place: On a snow sled: "Bewa sled may develop high
speed under certain snow conditions."

Third place: On a 12-inch-high storage rack for compact
discs: "Do not use as a ladder."

Fourth place: A 5-inch fishing lure with three nasty steel
hooks advises it is "Harmful if swallowed." Too bad fish
can't read!

Previous winners in the "Wacky Warning Label Contest" are
presented
here for your amusement and amazement:

A warning on an electric router made for carpenters cautions,
"This
product not intended for use as a dental drill."

A warning label found on a baby stroller cautions the user:
"Remove
child before folding."

A bottle of prescription sleeping pills says, "Warning: May
cause drowsiness."

A sticker on a toilet at a public facility in Ann Arbor,
Michigan actually warns: "Recycled flush water unsafe for
drinking."

A CD player carries this unusual warning: "Do not use the
Ultradisc2000 as a projectile in a catapult."

An "Aim-n-Flame" fireplace lighter cautions, "Do not use near
fire,
flame, or sparks."

A label on a hand-held massager advises consumers not to use
"while
sleeping or unconscious."

A container of underarm deodorant says, "Caution: Do not
spray in eyes."

A cartridge for a laser printer warns, "Do not eat toner."

A household iron warns users: "Never iron clothes while they
are being worn."

A label with a hair dryer reads, "Never use hair dryer while
sleeping."

A 13-inch wheel on a wheelbarrow warns: "Not intended for
highway use."

A cardboard car sunshield that keeps sun off the dashboard
warns,
"Do
not drive with sunshield in place."

A bathroom heater says: "This product is not to be used in
bathrooms."

A can of self-defense pepper spray warns users: "May irritate
eyes."

A warning on a pair of shin guards manufactured for bicyclists
says:
"Shin pads cannot protect any part of the body they do not
cover."

A popular manufactured fireplace log warns: "Caution: Risk of
Fire."

A box of birthday cake candles says: "DO NOT use soft wax as
ear plugs or for any other function that involves insertion
into a body cavity."

"Do not use snow blower on the roof."

"Do not allow children to play in the dishwasher."

I've actually used some of these items with the ridiculous warnings.
We really are the idiots they make us out to be.
Mommie

I've actually used some of these items
with the ridiculous warnings.
We really are the idiots they make us out to be.
Mommie

Are you the one setting the lowest
common denominator standards?

Are you saying you LIKE being treated like a moron?