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Old July 12th 03, 12:02 AM
Corinne
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!

I was alerted to this article on an email group I'm part of....I was AMAZED
and greatly disappointed to read the following:

"The August 2003 issue of Real Simple magazine, currently on newstands,
contains an article titled "20 Time Wasting Rules to Break Now."
(page 136)

What's one of the rules to break? Breastfeeding. The article states
that with bottle-feeding, "you know exactly how much food the baby is
eating, and Mom may be less tired because Dad has no excuse to sleep
through 3 a.m. feedings." They go on to quote Boris Petrikovsky,
chairman of the department of obstetrics-gynecology at Nassau
University Medical Center, in East Meadow, New York, as saying, "The
biggest downside of not breast-feeding is that the mother misses out
on some of the bonding."

You can check the article out yourself by visiting
http://www.RealSimple.com - use access code easyfood to view the current
issue.
I strongly urge you to write letters of protest. You can reach the managing
editor, Kristin van Ogtrop by email at , or by snail
mail at:

REAL SIMPLE, Time & Life Building
Rockefeller Center
New York, NY 10020-1393.

Be sure to include your full name, address, and home telephone on any
correspondence for verification purposes.You might also consider contacting
Clinique, JJill, Sephora, Eucerin, The Container Store, and Brita, major
advertisers in this magazine, to let them know about your displeasure.
Please make everyone aware of this shameful behavior on Real Simple's part."

Please, folks, let's bombard the mag with the REAL facts...not some drivel
written to grab attention & sell mags.

Corinne


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When mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.


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Old July 12th 03, 12:30 AM
dragonlady
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!

In article ymHPa.38200$H17.11890@sccrnsc02, "Corinne"
wrote:

I was alerted to this article on an email group I'm part of....I was AMAZED
and greatly disappointed to read the following:

"The August 2003 issue of Real Simple magazine, currently on newstands,
contains an article titled "20 Time Wasting Rules to Break Now."
(page 136)

What's one of the rules to break? Breastfeeding. The article states
that with bottle-feeding, "you know exactly how much food the baby is
eating, and Mom may be less tired because Dad has no excuse to sleep
through 3 a.m. feedings."


Aside from everything else that's wrong with this, I can't, personally,
imagine that bottle feeding is LESS time consuming that breast feeding
-- assuming you aren't "propping" your baby, which is a bad idea anyway.
I know I visited households with twins the same age as mine who were
being bottle fed, and the amount of time devoted to mixing formula,
cleaning bottles, buying stuff, and, in one case, keeping the two
formulas seperate -- it just looked like a real time consuming effort
compared to plopping a breast (or two) out.

meh
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

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Old July 12th 03, 12:36 AM
Clisby Williams
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!



dragonlady wrote:

In article ymHPa.38200$H17.11890@sccrnsc02, "Corinne"
wrote:



I was alerted to this article on an email group I'm part of....I was AMAZED
and greatly disappointed to read the following:

"The August 2003 issue of Real Simple magazine, currently on newstands,
contains an article titled "20 Time Wasting Rules to Break Now."
(page 136)

What's one of the rules to break? Breastfeeding. The article states
that with bottle-feeding, "you know exactly how much food the baby is
eating, and Mom may be less tired because Dad has no excuse to sleep
through 3 a.m. feedings."



Aside from everything else that's wrong with this, I can't, personally,
imagine that bottle feeding is LESS time consuming that breast feeding
-- assuming you aren't "propping" your baby, which is a bad idea anyway.
I know I visited households with twins the same age as mine who were
being bottle fed, and the amount of time devoted to mixing formula,
cleaning bottles, buying stuff, and, in one case, keeping the two
formulas seperate -- it just looked like a real time consuming effort
compared to plopping a breast (or two) out.

meh



Actually, that's the one thing I agree with. My first child was
formula-fed, and my second
breastfed. The formula-feeding was definitely simpler for me. But
then, it might have
made my life "simpler" to plop the babies in a playpen in a soundproofed
room and close
the door. What's simplest is not always what's preferable.

Clisby

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Old July 12th 03, 01:29 AM
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!



"Corinne" wrote in message
news:ymHPa.38200$H17.11890@sccrnsc02...
I was alerted to this article on an email group I'm part of....I was

AMAZED
and greatly disappointed to read the following:

"The August 2003 issue of Real Simple magazine, currently on

newstands,
contains an article titled "20 Time Wasting Rules to Break Now."
(page 136)

What's one of the rules to break? Breastfeeding. The article states
that with bottle-feeding, "you know exactly how much food the baby

is
eating, and Mom may be less tired because Dad has no excuse to sleep
through 3 a.m. feedings." They go on to quote Boris Petrikovsky,
chairman of the department of obstetrics-gynecology at Nassau
University Medical Center, in East Meadow, New York, as saying, "The
biggest downside of not breast-feeding is that the mother misses out
on some of the bonding."

You can check the article out yourself by visiting
http://www.RealSimple.com - use access code easyfood to view the

current


It's telling me I need to sign up to read it.


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Old July 12th 03, 01:47 AM
Corinne
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!

If you go in through AOL, you don't need to sign up.

Corinne

--
"Since AP parents are accused of "spoiling" their children with
responsiveness, love, understanding, patience, positive interaction,
intimacy and closeness, respect, and value - I have decided that spoiling
ROCKS! Teaching my child that she ALWAYS deserves all of the above is the
right thing to do, and I plan to own my spoiling ways. Baby Spoilers Unite!"
--Jessica, iVillage AP board

"badgirl" wrote in message
et...


"Corinne" wrote in message
news:ymHPa.38200$H17.11890@sccrnsc02...
I was alerted to this article on an email group I'm part of....I was

AMAZED
and greatly disappointed to read the following:

"The August 2003 issue of Real Simple magazine, currently on

newstands,
contains an article titled "20 Time Wasting Rules to Break Now."
(page 136)

What's one of the rules to break? Breastfeeding. The article states
that with bottle-feeding, "you know exactly how much food the baby

is
eating, and Mom may be less tired because Dad has no excuse to sleep
through 3 a.m. feedings." They go on to quote Boris Petrikovsky,
chairman of the department of obstetrics-gynecology at Nassau
University Medical Center, in East Meadow, New York, as saying, "The
biggest downside of not breast-feeding is that the mother misses out
on some of the bonding."

You can check the article out yourself by visiting
http://www.RealSimple.com - use access code easyfood to view the

current


It's telling me I need to sign up to read it.




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Old July 12th 03, 02:20 AM
Christina
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!

"badgirl" wrote

It's telling me I need to sign up to read it.


If you get to the page where you are asked to sign up, there should also be
a button saying something like "Newsstand Readers/Buyers". Click on this
button and you will be asked to provide the access code from the current
issue (the one that Corinne gave was easyfood) and an e-mail address. This
is how I got in. I also gave a spam-trap address and still got access.

I hope I remembered this procedure correctly. It seemed like I had to go
through a bunch of pages to get to the article.

Christina
Mom to DS, 20 months


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Old July 12th 03, 02:26 AM
badgirl
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!



"Corinne" wrote in message
news:bUIPa.38304$ye4.29625@sccrnsc01...
If you go in through AOL, you don't need to sign up.

Corinne

--
"Since AP parents are accused of "spoiling" their children with
responsiveness, love, understanding, patience, positive interaction,
intimacy and closeness, respect, and value - I have decided that

spoiling
ROCKS! Teaching my child that she ALWAYS deserves all of the above

is the
right thing to do, and I plan to own my spoiling ways. Baby Spoilers

Unite!"
--Jessica, iVillage AP board



uhm, ok but I don't have aohell

Jen



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Old July 12th 03, 03:06 AM
Jan Andrea H.
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!

Here's the reply I sent:

Dear folks,

As a potential subscriber, I have to say, the "20 rules to break now"
article in the August issue has just made me a forever non-subscriber. The
Ob-Gyn who is quoted in the article is way, way off. The worst things that
could happen to a baby who is not breastfed are myriad and serious -- not
every baby will have an adverse reaction, but try talking to parents whose
babies could not tolerate any of the formulas currently on the market and
ask them if it was simpler not to breastfeed! It's not just a matter of
missing out on bonding. They miss out on all the immune benefits of
breastmilk. They are more likely to have digestive disturbances as infants,
ranging from constipation, to milk protein allergies, to diarrhea. Babies
who are not fed breastmilk are more likely to suffer from diabetes, obesity,
Crohn's disease, and a number of other conditions later in life. All of this
is very well documented in medical literature... which your "expert" has
apparently not read. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends nursing
for at least a year... but since your "expert" is not, in fact, an expert on
babies, I suppose we shouldn't expect him to realize this.

Bottle-feeding takes up far more time than breastfeeding -- when I was
breastfeeding my son, if he got hungry, all I had to do was put him to my
breast. Period. There was no preparation of formula, worrying about
sterilizing or cleaning bottles, wondering if I'd brought enough formula
with me on an errand, worrying about the staggering costs of formula
feeding... and I could rest assured knowing I was providing the most
appropriate and safest possible food for my child. I knew he was eating
enough because he had enough wet and dirty diapers. My husband could still
feed him when I went out, using pumped and frozen breastmilk... which I
pumped while my son was nursing, so no extra time spent there. Middle of
the night feedings were not an issue; my son (simply) slept beside me, and
when he wanted to eat, I'd latch him on and go back to sleep. No having to
reheat formula or keep a cooler beside the bed. No getting Dad up, and no
lost sleep for me.

I sincerely hope you will print just a few of the letters you will
undoubtedly receive on this topic from other parents who are as appalled as
I am at this terrible "advice". And I hope you will consider printing an
opposing viewpoint... like the viewpoint of the entire children's medical
field!

Sincerely,
Jan A. Heirtzler
happy to have breastfed her son, and looking forward to breastfeeding her
daughter -- because it's simple, and because it's the best.


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Old July 12th 03, 09:51 AM
Elana Kehoe
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Default "Time Wasting Rules" - from Real Simple Magazine - NOT GOOD!

This is what I got back from them...and I think the response was written
by a mom who is "saddled by guilt"...

Thank you for your letter regarding the August story "What's the Worst
Thing That Could Happen If..." We have received a great number of
passionate reader letters about the breast-feeding issue. This came as
no surprise to us as it generated strong opinions among the editors as
well. Ultimately, everyone on staff agreed that breast-feeding is always
better than not breast-feeding (and in the article we clearly outline
the benefits) but also recognized that not every mother is capable of
nursing for the 12 months recommended by the American Academy of
Pediatrics. There are women who are forced go back to work after 8 weeks
of unpaid maternity leave and don't have private offices or convenient,
discreet stations for pumping. There are women who suffer from
infections during breastfeeding, making nursing unpleasant and painful,
and ultimately interfering with the enjoyment of their babies. This
article was for the benefit of those women, who try their hardest to do
the right thing, but are defeated by circumstance and subsequently
saddled by guilt.

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with us. We take your opinions
seriously.


All the best,
The Editors


*Please note that Real Simple responds to every letter we receive, and
therefore, regrettably, not all letters can be answered in a timely
manner. Please consult our website - www.realsimple.com - in the event
your inquiry may be answered sooner.
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Old July 12th 03, 11:04 AM
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dragonlady wrote:

In article ,
Clisby Williams wrote:



dragonlady wrote:



In article ymHPa.38200$H17.11890@sccrnsc02, "Corinne"
wrote:





I was alerted to this article on an email group I'm part of....I was AMAZED
and greatly disappointed to read the following:

"The August 2003 issue of Real Simple magazine, currently on newstands,
contains an article titled "20 Time Wasting Rules to Break Now."
(page 136)

What's one of the rules to break? Breastfeeding. The article states
that with bottle-feeding, "you know exactly how much food the baby is
eating, and Mom may be less tired because Dad has no excuse to sleep
through 3 a.m. feedings."




Aside from everything else that's wrong with this, I can't, personally,
imagine that bottle feeding is LESS time consuming that breast feeding
-- assuming you aren't "propping" your baby, which is a bad idea anyway.
I know I visited households with twins the same age as mine who were
being bottle fed, and the amount of time devoted to mixing formula,
cleaning bottles, buying stuff, and, in one case, keeping the two
formulas seperate -- it just looked like a real time consuming effort
compared to plopping a breast (or two) out.

meh




Actually, that's the one thing I agree with. My first child was
formula-fed, and my second
breastfed. The formula-feeding was definitely simpler for me. But
then, it might have
made my life "simpler" to plop the babies in a playpen in a soundproofed
room and close
the door. What's simplest is not always what's preferable.

Clisby




I don't want to dispute you -- I believe you -- but I can't figure out
how formula and bottles could be simpler than breastfeeding, especially
if you spend much time out of the house, but even if you are home all
the time.

Can you explain how it was simpler?

meh



Sure. The major thing, of course, is that if you formula-feed a child,
you don't have to do
it all. Until my daughter was about 7 months old, my husband did the
majority of the
feeding (he was the SAHP for most of that time.) How could BF possibly
have been simpler for me?

With my breastfed child: for the first 3 months, breastfeeding was
very difficult. YMMV,
but I can't consider something that caused that much pain to have made
my life simpler.
The second three months were much better, but still not easy, by any
measure. And again,
I had to do it all. That's the huge downside of breastfeeding. I
think it's easy now; but
I have a 17-month-old who only nurses 3-4 times in a 24-hour period, and
probably wouldn't
care if I cut it back to twice.

In my experience of reading these newsgroups, people who talk about the
inconvenience
of formula feeding typically are grossly exaggerating the amount of time
and bother it takes.
Here's the kind of thing I read:

1. You have to sterilize bottles. (No, you don't.)
2. You have to get up in the middle of the night and fix a bottle.
(Only if your definition
of "fixing a bottle" is: reach in the refrigerator, pull out a
bottle, stick it in the baby's
mouth. If you have a picky baby, maybe you microwave it for 10
seconds first.)
3. If you go out with the baby, you have to wait until you find
somewhere to warm up
the bottle. (No, you don't.)
4. You have to go to the trouble of buying the formula. (Oh, give me
a break.)
5. You might run out of formula. (Never happened. How much
trouble is it to remember
to buy the only food your baby eats?)



Clisby






 




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