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Bill for Banning Amalgam Reintroduced
I would be willing to read a good peer-reviewed article discussing the
specific amount of mercury released in the average filling by someone who has TMD and/or chews gum. Also, we would need to break down the specific TMJ disorders...I need to read something, besides a post, that states the amount "released." Do any scientific articles exist? I look forward to seeing some references from the anti-amalgamists on this board. "jill999999" wrote in message oups.com... Robert wrote: "C.J. Thomas" wrote in message ... Jan, I also have a question for you. When are we going to see all the research demonstrating the negative side-effects of amalgam fillings on actual people who have had fillings in their mouths for the past 40-50 years? How long does it take for toxicity to present itself? Surely, people are going to start dropping like flies. I took several chemisrty classes at U.C. Berkeley and biochem. in med school. Last time I looked at the periodic table of the elements,there was only one mercury. Why do people act like we need seperate studies on hg from amalgam,fish,latex paint ,pesticides,contact lens soln.,vaccines etc.?It's all the same hg.The only issue is dose and if you have several fillings,especially the non gamma 2 type,you have toxic levels, especially if you have TMJ and/or chew gum. Was the lead that was used in paint different from lead in gasoline? The same question applies to fluoridation. Robert |
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Bill for Banning Amalgam Reintroduced
Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.talkinternational.com Bill for Banning Amalgam Reintroduced A bill for banning amalgam dental fillings has been (re)introduced to the house by Congresswoman Diane Watson. The bill is HR 4011. Congresswoman Watson's staff has encouraged us to get behind the bill and has asked the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology to have its members contact their local representatives. We also strongly encourage the public to also do so. Please let them hear your voice! The problem I see with this is that there were a lot of dentists in decades past that honestly didn't know there was anything wrong with amalgam fillings. I recall having a discussion with my dentist years ago about it and he assured me that they were totally safe. Years later I brought up that topic again and he said (not remembering that we had once talked about it) that he no longer uses amalgams because their safety is questionable and he wanted to err on the side of caution. If it could be proven that a dentist has been using amalgams knowing full well that they are unsafe, those dentists should be forced to replace the fillings. I don't' feel that's the case for dentists who had no idea. There was no intent to deceive, and so no reason for them to suffer such a huge loss. Just my opinion. Max. |
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jill999999 wrote:
Robert wrote: "C.J. Thomas" wrote in message ... Jan, I also have a question for you. When are we going to see all the research demonstrating the negative side-effects of amalgam fillings on actual people who have had fillings in their mouths for the past 40-50 years? How long does it take for toxicity to present itself? Surely, people are going to start dropping like flies. I took several chemisrty classes at U.C. Berkeley and biochem. in med school. Last time I looked at the periodic table of the elements,there was only one mercury. Why do people act like we need seperate studies on hg from amalgam,fish,latex paint ,pesticides,contact lens soln.,vaccines etc.?It's all the same hg. First you claim that you to chemistry class at UC Berkley and then biochem in med school, and, then you show that you have no understanding of either chemistry or biochemistry. The only issue is dose and if you have several fillings,especially the non gamma 2 type,you have toxic levels, especially if you have TMJ and/or chew gum. Was the lead that was used in paint different from lead in gasoline? Actually, yes. The same question applies to fluoridation. Robert |
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jill999999 wrote:
C.J. Thomas wrote: Jan, I also have a question for you. When are we going to see all the research demonstrating the negative side-effects of amalgam fillings on actual people who have had fillings in their mouths for the past 40-50 years? How long does it take for toxicity to present itself? Surely, people are going to start dropping like flies. How many people with symtoms such as low body temperature(indicative of thyroid malfunction),chronic encephalitis, depression,low white blood cells(immunodeficiency),dizziness(hg displaces o2 on hemoglobin),fatigue,twitches,-poor memory would think their symtoms are caused by their fillings? I am truly impressed with your medical knowledge. It astounds me. Did I forget to mention that hg cases the brain damage associated with alzheimers disease. You are in line for the next Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. |
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"jill999999" wrote in message oups.com... C.J. Thomas wrote: Jan, I also have a question for you. When are we going to see all the research demonstrating the negative side-effects of amalgam fillings on actual people who have had fillings in their mouths for the past 40-50 years? How long does it take for toxicity to present itself? Surely, people are going to start dropping like flies. How many people with symtoms such as low body temperature(indicative of thyroid malfunction),chronic encephalitis, depression,low white blood cells(immunodeficiency),dizziness(hg displaces o2 on hemoglobin),fatigue,twitches,-poor memory would think their symtoms are caused by their fillings? Did I forget to mention that hg cases the brain damage associated with alzheimers disease. One of a group of causes for SOME people. As I have stated before, it is enough that if it were new on the market, it would be banned, sort of like leaded paint. |
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"C.J. Thomas" wrote in message ... but you have no proof that it does actually cause this...it is very speculative. Top posters never see logic. |
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jill999999 wrote:
David Wright wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Peter Bowditch wrote: http://www.talkinternational.com Bill for Banning Amalgam Reintroduced A bill for banning amalgam dental fillings has been (re)introduced to the house by Congresswoman Diane Watson. The bill is HR 4011. Congresswoman Watson's staff has encouraged us to get behind the bill and has asked the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology to have its members contact their local representatives. We also strongly encourage the public to also do so. Please let them hear your voice! Excellent news for dentists. If amalgams are banned there will be tens of billions of dollars going into dentists' pockets. Good point. I understand that the alternatives to amalgams take longer to use, and, do not last as long. That's not quite true -- gold lasts longer. But it's a lot more expensive. Best solution: brush at least twice per day, use fluoridated toothpaste, and floss. Dental sealants for the kids are also a good idea. The cheapest filling is the one you never get. Too bad Gohde wasn't able to follow this natural practice. Gold should not cost more. The amount of gold in a medium sized filling should only cost about $20.Also,hg cuuses periodontal prolems,lasts a shorter time ,fractures teeth and poisons you.A tooth that is drilled too often is will die sooner,leading to expensive root canals,crown,implants etc.In Uganda and other African nations zero percent of 21 yr olds have cavities. How many of them have teeth? I know that a scientific type like you would have no problems whatsoever finding scientific studies proving all those claims. There's no evidence that fluoride prevents cavities. Sure there is. There is however,evidence that it causes bone and tooth fractures, and increased incidence or bone cancer. I know that a scientific type like you would have no problems whatsoever finding scientific studies proving all those claims. Toothpaste coats your teeth and prevents natural remineralisation by saliva. I see, so saliva contains calcium, etc. I know that a scientific type like you would have no problems whatsoever finding scientific studies proving that claim. Try chewing sugarless gum with xtlitol after meals instead of brushing with toothpaste. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth |
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jill999999 wrote:
In the long run,gold-platinum fillings are less expensive since they last so much longer and don't fracture your teeth.. I know people with gold fillings that are 25 yrs old and don't leak. Mercury expands and contracts. This is why it's used in thermometers. Did you know that gold also expands and contracts? This causes teeth to fracture. If expanding and contracting cause fractures in teeth, then gold inlays should also cause fractures. When a tooth fractures,the dentist sells you a crown .25% of teeth die (then root canaled) the day they're filed down for a crown.If the tooth doesnt die that day ,it probably will in ten yrs.The more you replace fillings the more damage to the nerve(trauma from drilling) .This eventually leads to root canals, extractions,implants as well as TMJ problems from constant shifting of your bite from all the dental work.As far as composites ,if they are "indirect"(made in a lab),they last longer than amalgam.Also, when I attended a top tier law school Was that after taking chemistry at UC Berkley and before medical school? Or, did you go to law school after medical school during your residency in Scatology? ,I learned that patients had a right to informed consent.Most people don't know that "silver" fillings are 50% hg and that their tooth fractures ,which most people have , are caused by hg. Mark Probert wrote: Peter Bowditch wrote: http://www.talkinternational.com Bill for Banning Amalgam Reintroduced A bill for banning amalgam dental fillings has been (re)introduced to the house by Congresswoman Diane Watson. The bill is HR 4011. Congresswoman Watson's staff has encouraged us to get behind the bill and has asked the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology to have its members contact their local representatives. We also strongly encourage the public to also do so. Please let them hear your voice! Excellent news for dentists. If amalgams are banned there will be tens of billions of dollars going into dentists' pockets. Good point. I understand that the alternatives to amalgams take longer to use, and, do not last as long. Using a simple business model, patients and insurance companies will have to come up with more money to pay for non-amalgam restorations. This bill could be rightly called the Dentist Full Employment Act. |
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"Peter Bowditch" wrote: "Jan Drew" wrote: "Alexander Vasserman DDS" wrote in message groups.com... This bill is a waste of time and money. No, the bill is not a waste of time. In fact mercury amalgams should have never been used. They never have been used. A "mercury amalgam" would be a liquid at body temperature and would slosh out of a tooth when the toothholder moved his or her head. You have been told this before, so why do you keep repeating the idiotic use of the meaningless term "mercury amalgam"? 235 listings with the words *mercury amalgam* on Medline. Why do you keep lying? The first dentists to use them were call QUACKS. Why, oh why do you keep repeating this lie when you have been given comprehensive evidence that the word "quack" was in use hundreds of years before amalgam was used to fill teeth? I did not repeat any lie. The first dentists to use them were call QUACKS. snip repeated insanity Restored: No, the bill is not a waste of time. In fact mercury amalgams should have never been used. The first dentists to use them were call QUACKS. Then came the LYING ADA and *organized medcine* seeing a way to make $$$$. NOT caring what the risks were. FACT: The ADA got caught LYING--saying amalgams did not leak. Then they made up a new LIE saying the low levels were not dangerous. Studies have shown that to be a BLATANT LIE. Adverse health effects have been documented. They were and are denied, The general public has no idea what is going in their mouth, they have been DISHONESTLY taught to trust dentists--like YOU. Who care nothing about people--just their EGO. There has never been ONE single study porving them to be safe. FACT: They are NOT. The price of Amalgam is going up by 30% so it is going to swing more dentists to use composite. That should not be the reason for the so-called swing. People are searching and suffering--NEEDLESS. All because of these LIES. -- Peter Bowditch snip repeated insanity |
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jill999999 wrote:
There will probably be millions of dollars going into the pockets of victims of mercury poisoning such as myself. Those are pretty large pockets. If you cause a car accident,you have to pay damages. True. I guess you learned that in law school. Dentists cant argue that they don't know hg is toxic anymore than they can say they don't know that lead and plutonium are toxic.Also,countless studies show the level of hg exposure is way above EPA,WHO,USPS max. exposure levels. Sure dentists can claim that. |
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