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Fern5827 wrote: Subject: South stands alone... From: "Doug" Date: 10/7/2003 2:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: t LaVonne Carlson writes: Children who were corporally punished are significantly more likely to experience problems of substance abuse, Hi, LaVonne! You are incorrect. The study that draws this conclusion has been challenged on many fronts, among them the failure to control for other variables. Researchers have been unable to duplicate the results. If you would cite your source, we can look at the research and its social science detractors. I didn't say "study" Fern. I said "studies." Studies banning nearly three decades. I have posted references and you have responded. If you are the same Fern that was active in this ng in the latter part of the 90's you know these studies. You also know studies that have been posted since then that clearly negate your erroneous statement. If you are the same Fern that has been posting since the later part of the 90's, please post references. depression, suicide, I am not sure which study you are relying upon, but citing it would help us see where you base your claim. Citing would help, but since you are Fern, and you have responded to this study numerous times, I suggest you provide the citation. You are Fern, aren't you? and are significanly more likely to abuse their own children than are children who were parenting without corporal punishment. Given the nature of CPS founded "abuse," which is often discussed in this newsgroup, it would be helpful to learn how child abuse was established to have occurred in the study you rely upon here for your claim. I'm not talking about a study, Fern. I'm talking about three decades of studies. Remember when you actually seemed to read something other than internet and National Enquirer? Who are you now, Fern? How was child abuse established, you ask. This is a very good question. In some states parents can hit their children with instruments, leaving bruises and welts, and this is not considered abuse. In other states if a parent leaves a mark on a child, or hits above the waist, the spanking is considered abuse. In the US, states are free to define child abuse. How bizarre is that, Fern? You want the state to define what level of physically assault is considered abusive if you are the victim? LaVonne |
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LaVonne Carlson wrote in message ...
Fern5827 wrote: Subject: South stands alone... From: "Doug" Date: 10/7/2003 2:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: t LaVonne Carlson writes: Children who were corporally punished are significantly more likely to experience problems of substance abuse, Hi, LaVonne! You are incorrect. The study that draws this conclusion has been challenged on many fronts, among them the failure to control for other variables. Researchers have been unable to duplicate the results. If you would cite your source, we can look at the research and its social science detractors. I didn't say "study" Fern. I said "studies." Studies banning nearly three decades. I have posted references and you have responded. If you are the same Fern that was active in this ng in the latter part of the 90's you know these studies. You also know studies that have been posted since then that clearly negate your erroneous statement. If you are the same Fern that has been posting since the later part of the 90's, please post references. depression, suicide, I am not sure which study you are relying upon, but citing it would help us see where you base your claim. Citing would help, but since you are Fern, and you have responded to this study numerous times, I suggest you provide the citation. You are Fern, aren't you? and are significanly more likely to abuse their own children than are children who were parenting without corporal punishment. Given the nature of CPS founded "abuse," which is often discussed in this newsgroup, it would be helpful to learn how child abuse was established to have occurred in the study you rely upon here for your claim. I'm not talking about a study, Fern. I'm talking about three decades of studies. Remember when you actually seemed to read something other than internet and National Enquirer? Who are you now, Fern? How was child abuse established, you ask. This is a very good question. In some states parents can hit their children with instruments, leaving bruises and welts, and this is not considered abuse. In other states if a parent leaves a mark on a child, or hits above the waist, the spanking is considered abuse. In the US, states are free to define child abuse. How bizarre is that, Fern? You want the state to define what level of physically assault is considered abusive if you are the victim? Actually parents should be charged with child abuse if they look at 'their' child in a mean way!!!!!!!!!!! LaVonne LaVonne |
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