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PREGNANT WOMEN: Do NOT let the MD or CNMwife clamp your baby's cord until
it has stopped pulsating and your baby is breathing and pink.^^^ (^^^If resuscitation is needed when your baby is born insist in advance in writing that it be done with the placental circulation intact. See the recommendation of George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB, FACOG, below.) MICHIGAN SHERIFF'S: Retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB, FACOG has done more than any other OB to expose mass child abuse by OBs... George appears worried that you will make a "child abuse raid" "blindly." (See below.) George has suggested that I should more clearly address the gruesome spectacle of MDs and CNMwives intentionally causing fetal heart rate decelerations before your raid. BE ADVISED: ALL unnecessary fetal heart rate decelerations intentionally caused by MDs and CNMwives are child abuse - including those caused by the gruesome thumb/finger pinching (temporary cord clamping experiment) of George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB, FACOG. (Sorry George - but you have no right to experimentally cause fetal heart rate decelerations.) SHERIFFS: CHECK MY INTERPRETATION... 1. I *believe* George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB, FACOG is indicating that it is **OK** for MDs and CNMwives to intentionally cause fetal heart rate decelerations by TEMPORARILY depriving babies of blood/oxygen from the placenta.... 2. I *believe* George is agreeing with me that it is CHILD ABUSE when MDs and CNMwives cause those fetal heart rate decelerations then PERMANENTLY deprive babies of blood and oxygen from their placentas by cutting the cord before it has stopped pulsating. BIZARRELY, George *appears* to be saying that - if OBs and CNMwives persist - a "child abuse raid" by sheriffs should NOT take place. He appears to be saying that MDs and CNMwives should be allowed to continue abusing babies en masse - sometimes causing permanent brain damage. (See George's statement, "I know..." below.) George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB means well - but he is - first and foremost - protecting his fellow OBs - not babies. George is pretending that immediate cord clamping child abuse should only be reported if the sheriff suffered immediate cord clamping! See below. INTERESTING: MORE MASS CHILD ABUSE BY OBs... George is ignoring his fellow OBs closing birth canals up to 30% and KEEPING birth canals closed up to 30% when shoulders get stuck... Keeping the birth canal closed when shoulders get stuck causes OBVIOUS asphyxia known to cause PERMANENT brain damage. The baby's head sticking out mom's vagina is BLUE! Better pushing - BAD McRoberts - or better pushing and allowing the birth canal to open - GOOD McRoberts solves the problem in many cases... WHY are OBs waiting till babies' shoulders get stuck before offering the "extra" up to 30%?!!! REGARDLESS whether immediate cord clamping is child abuse... SHERIFFS: For simple PROOF that OBs are knowingly closing birth canals - and simple instructions on how women can allow their birth canals to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%... See I ain't no Semmelweis, but... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2591 RELEVANT QUOTATIONS "[T]he intellectual foundation of medical care...is...whatever a physician decides is by definition correct." --Eddy DM. The challenge. (Jan12)1990 JAMA "There is one quotation that captures the essence of what membership in both the AMA and our state medical associations is all about...'Joining the AMA is like joining a church...'" --Hopkins D reviewing Campion FD: The AMA and U.S. Health Policy Since 1940, 1984, Review Press: Chicago, IL. In Western J Med, 1985;142(2):273. (George, my further remarks in response are interspersed below #######) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:55 PM Subject: Michigan baby 'stranglings': Dr. Morley to benefit sheriffs' babies? (by ... Dr. Gastaldo: I am extracting short exerpts from your ramblings (printed in red) to illustrate your futility and incompetence in this field: BIZARRE! Again, how can George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG know that producing fetal heart rate deceleration "indicating asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage" is of no significance?! The phrase "indicating asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage" is not mine. It is a quote from an ACOG article on cerebral palsy. #### You quoted the ACOG article on cerebral palsy using the phrase "indicating asphyxia sufficient to cause CEREBRAL PALSY"... #### Why are you now sending me to another of your publications? If you read my latest publications on HIE and cerebral palsy at: www.cordclamping.com #### How about we stick with the article I quoted... you may just be able to comprehend that ASPHYXIA DOES NOT CAUSE BRAIN DAMAGE! #### I comprehend that you quoted ACOG using the phrase "asphyxia sufficient to cause CEREBRAL PALSY." #### I comprehend that you changed the phrase - "asphyxia sufficient to cause BRAIN DAMAGE" - and now you wish to attribute you transcription error to ACOG. #### Please correct me if I am incorrect in my comprehension. Hypo-perfusion of brain tissue due to hypotension causes brain damage. I know that, #### You cannot possibly know that the temporary asphyxia of your gruesome experiment does NOT cause brain damage, however slight, however temporary. and that's how I know that "these fetal heart rate decelerations are of no significance" in relation to causing cerebral palsy. #### I did not say that you cannot know that fetal heart rate decelerations caused by your gruesome experiment are of no significance "in relation to cerebral palsy." #### I said only that you cannot know that they are of no significance. Can YOU describe and define the different types of fetal heart rate decelerations to the Michigan Sheriff's Association so that they can understand what they mean before they do their child abuse raid? #### Again - as I told Michigan sheriffs (see above): BE ADVISED: ALL unnecessary fetal heart rate decelerations intentionally caused by MDs and CNMwives are child abuse - including those caused by the gruesome thumb/finger temporary clamping experiment of George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB, FACOG. Can YOU defend the use of the word "strangling" to the agencies to which you want me to report child abuse, when strangling has been immediately corrected and prevented in every case by lung ventilation? #### Simple. When you are pinching off the cord with thumb and finger - THAT is strangling off BLOOD - albeit temporarily. #### When OBs and CNMwives CLAMP the cord - and cut it - they strangle off blood PERMANENTLY. This can cause hypo-tension/hypo-perfusion - and as you say: "Hypo-perfusion of brain tissue due to hypotension causes brain damage. I know that..." For your information, My publications are just that, PUBLIC, and the Michigan Attorney's General Office and the Michigan Community Health Department are thus well informed regarding the matter of immediate cord clamping, and its ethical and legal implications. They do not need your reckless nonsense. #### You are FAILING to make MANDATORY public documents. My "reckless nonsense" is that you suspect child abuse is occurring - yet you are failing to do the MINIMUM required by law to stop it. See Michigan child abuse reporting law quoted below. You are a mandatory reporter. Your attempts to turn the Michigan Sheriff's association into a blind, misinformed lynch mob do not promote the cause of sensible umbilical cord management and the prevention of cerebral palsy; indeed, they seem to be aimed at promoting cerebral palsy as do your crude attempts to discredit and disparage me... #### George, you have done some wonderful work to prevent cerebral palsy. But you discredit yourself by so obviously failing to do the MINIMUM required by law to help the children you say you are trying to protect. As I've said before, you are - first and foremost - protecting your fellow OBs - not babies. #### Me (or better, you) urging the sheriff to simply STOP IMMEDIATE CORD CLAMPING and thereby offer babies the protection of laws specifically designed to protect them is NOT an action aimed at promoting cerebral palsy! : ( George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG advises a GRUESOME experiment: the gruesome umbilical cord pinching (baby asphyxiation) experiment of George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG ) Could promoting cerebral palsy possibly be for your own benefit? #### George - as most babies are denied the use of significant amounts of their blood - you are failing to do the MINIMUM required by law to protect them. You are thereby promoting cerebral palsy - FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR PROFESSION. See below. There are some professions that profit immensely from injured and brain damaged children - neonatologists, pediatric neurologists, trial lawyers and chiropractors who treat spastic children with physical therapy for ever. #### When MDs CAUSE spastic children - it is a good thing there are people to treat them - including - I suppose some chiropractors - though I do not know of any. #### The medical profession as a whole profits immensely by your failure to do the MINIMUM required by law to protect children. "We both know the answer - George the OB is (first and foremost) protecting OBs - not babies." You accuse me of "protecting" obstetricians; I do. #### Thank you for acknowledging this. I try my best to prevent them from causing brain damage; their main danger is from trial lawyers. #### No, the main danger for obstetricians is doing senseless things that cause brain damage - trial lawyers are just a symptom. Their best protection is a healthy child. #### Yep - but OBs are not the people who need protection. When children are being abused en masse by obstetricians - CHILDREN'S best protection is the Child PROTECTION Statute. First and foremost, "George the OB" is protecting the babies -- #### False. First and foremost, George the OB is protecting obstetricians. after that, the OB's don't need protection. #### Again, thank you for acknowledging that you are protecting OBs.... Now, Dr, Gastaldo, why would you want OB's to lose that protection and produce cerebral palsied babies? #### OBs are producing cerebral palsied babies WITH your protection - you are failing to do the MINIMUM required by law to protect babies! Dr Gastaldo, do you do physical therapy on brain damaged children? #### No, I am unlicensed by choice ever since a man calling himself Michael Schroeder, attorney for the Calif. Chiro Bd of Examiners told me it was outside my scope of practice to tell pregnant women that OBs are knowingly closing birth canals. #### I recently again asked the California Board of Chiropractic Examiners to help stop the related obvious (sometimes fatal) spinal manipulation crime of MD-obstetricians. See A simple question for Calif. Chiro Board... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2607 #### PREGNANT WOMEN: For simple PROOF that OBs are closing birth canals - and simple instructions on how to allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%... See I ain't no Semmelweis, but... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2591 Would the abolition of cerebral palsy adversely affect your income? Or other chiropractor's incomes? #### The abolition of cerebral palsy would affect the income of ALL persons who charge to treat cerebral palsy. I don't treat it. I don't know any chiros who do. Have you ever referred a cerebral palsy case to a trial lawyer?...Are your motives as GRUESOME as my experiment? #### George, your experiment IS gruesome - and trial lawyers are NOT the problem here. #### Getting back to asphyxia again... #### I'm wondering why you are silent about your fellow OBs (and CNMwives) routinely closing birth canals and KEEPING birth canals closed when shoulders get stuck... See again: I ain't no Semmelweis, but... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2591 #### Please make those mandatory reports, George. #### Thanks for reading. #### Sincerely, #### Todd #### Dr. Gastaldo ) #### PS As always, I am in favor or pardons in advance for MDs and MBs. MDs and MBs are just academic prime cuts forced through this culture's most powerful mental meatgrinder - medical school. #### Pardons in advance would allow MDs and MBs to keep doing their valid medical work, making money to pay the inevitable massive civil damages cause by their massive crime. #### My thanks to the woman whose email inspired me to write this post. Yes, I guess I am hard on George - but the obvious priority is protecting babies - not delicate OB sensibilities. George has done a great job - he should be lauded for his amazing work - but it should now be applied immediately - babies are gasping this very second due to obvious OB child abuse.... In a message dated 6/15/2004 11:05:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: MICHIGAN SHERIFF'S (via the Michigan Sheriffs' Association ): Most babies are being partially "strangled" at birth. Sound crazy? Keep reading. "Strangle" is my word - babies are being routinely cut off from their oxygen prematurely - producing indications of "asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage." This is a ROUTINE obstetric practice! According to GEORGE MALCOLM MORLEY, MB, ChB, FACOG (of Northport, MI?), immediate clamping of umbilical cords (standard practice) produces indications of "asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage." You MIGHT just be able to prevent a case of CEREBRAL PALSY! http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm If Dr. Morley starts generating suspected child abuse reports - PLEASE don't ignore those reports. Maybe you could all respond to THIS report from this lowly DC? I'm hoping at LEAST that you sheriffs will tell your friends and family about the massive OB baby "strangulation" crime I am reporting thanks to Dr. Morley's essay (URL above). The best thing would be for you to simply go into hospitals and stop the practice of immediately clamping umbilical cords in Michigan. How hard can it be? Sheriffs in other states could follow suit... Michigan sheriffs could put an end to the massive OB crime NATIONWIDE by next week - by simply contacting their sheriff colleagues in other states! I've heard that paramedics and ambulance personnel are trained to immediately clamp/tie cords - and (per Donna Young) 911 operators advise people to immediately clamp/tie with "shoelaces." They should be contacted too... PREGNANT WOMEN: YOUR BABY'S UMBILICAL CORD Everyone knows that babies breathe through their umbilical cords until they start breathing with their lungs - i.e. - they get their oxygen through their umbilical cords. PLEASE read the gruesome umbilical cord pinching (baby asphyxiation) experiment of George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG below. Note that actual CLAMPING AND CUTTING THE CORD (as opposed to temporarily pinching it shut) DOES cause "asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage." Do not let the OB immediately clamp your baby's cord. Let it stop pulsating first. DOES GEORGE THE OB SUSPECT CHILD ABUSE? OPEN LETTER (archived for global access; see below) George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG P.O. Box 181 Northport, MI 49670 USA (perhaps an old address?) George, Thank you for your quick response. You have done a WONDERFUL job exposing rather obvious OB crime. http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm You apparently agree with me that it is child abuse to PERMANENTLY produce in neonates indications of (as you say) "asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage." But apparently you haven't been reporting... If you do agree with me, please report to the sheriff immediately in accord with mandatory suspected child abuse reporting laws - and KEEP reporting regularly until the OB crime ends. REMEMBER: Filing mandatory suspected child abuse reports is EDUCATIONAL - you are educating sheriffs about mass child abuse by OBs. (Female sheriffs have babies and of course many male sheriffs have wives who have babies. Even if sheriffs don't immediately act to help ALL babies, *their* babies may benefit.) REMEMBER ALSO: Filing mandatory suspected child abuse reports does NOT mean you have to stop educational efforts not specifically directed at sheriffs - but in these latter - why not begin encouraging other OBs to join you in reporting to the sheriff - regularly - until the massive OB crime ends? Two last notes: 1. Filing suspected child abuse reports is indeed MANDATORY (assuming you suspect child abuse)... 2. No child abuse laws require the reporter to first determine if the sheriff has been similarly abused. (Many sheriff's probably *were* similarly abused - but where did you get this silly idea?) George, please do the MINIMUM required by law to stop OBs from senselessly producing "asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage." Thanks. Sincerely, Your friend, Todd Dr. Gastaldo PS George, I'm assuming you are still in Northport, Michigan... Here's the relevant Michigan law: "722.623 Persons required to report child abuse or neglect...(1) An individual is required to report under this act as follows...(a) A physician...who has reasonable cause to suspect child abuse or neglect shall make immediately, by telephone or otherwise, an oral report...Within 72 hours...the reporting person shall file a written report as required in this act..." BUT... "The written report shall contain the name of the child and a description of the abuse or neglect..." http://www.michiganlegislature.org/m...623&highlight= Obviously, oral reports can be made. Written reports may be a problem... If HIPAA confidentiality requirements deny access to names of children - perhaps this requirement for the written report can be waived since most children have their cords immediately clamped... Although I think sheriffs everywhere are empowered to investigate reports of suspected child abuse and neglect.... According to one website, the State of Michigan's Family Independence Agency/FIA is responsible for investigating reports of suspected child abuse and neglect. http://www.michigan.gov/fia/0,1607,7...1208--,00.html Mary L. Marois is the FIA contact in your county... She is at 701 S. Elmwood Ste. 19, Traverse City MI 49684-3185 Her phone number is: (231) 941-3900 I will cc Mary via: For Michigan, the Children's Protective Services phone numbers a (231) 941-3900 (800) 937-5903 BTW, it is conceivable that your efforts might be amplified by protecting adult medical students who are being taught to perform the crime by their MD superiors... Call Adult Protective Services (231) 941-3900 (800) 937-5903 My further comments are interspersed #### ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: On the upside of George's error to directing a hand-gripping hand-seqeeez... Dear Dr.: : Thank you for your diatribe regarding finger / thumb occlusion of the umbilical cord on a healthy neonate. ##### George, the folks at www.dictionary.com say:\Di"a*tribe\ (?; 277), n. [L. diatriba a learned discussion, Gr. ?, ##### They also say: di·a·tribe n. A bitter, abusive denunciation. ##### I guess I am somewhat bitter; but it is hardly "abusive" of me to point out that you are failing to read and understand child protection statutes. As noted above, one does not - as you aver below - have to determine whether the sheriff was similarly abused before reporting suspected child abuse. From your various conflicting statements ##### If I have made what you perceive to be conflicting statements, point them out and I will resolve the conflict if I perceive it. I concede that if I do not perceive the same conflict you perceive - it may be because I am biased. But then again, perhaps you are the biased one here. As I have said, by failing to report child abuse, you are - first and foremost - protecting your fellow OBs - not babies. I still believe this is the case. You have a HUGE conflict to resolve. Do the MINIMUM required of you by law in order to protect babies OR - continue NOT to do the minimum - in order to protect OBs. Perhaps I have made conflicting statements - but you are indeed conflicted - are you not? I am given to conclude that you have not had much personal experience delivering babies, ##### One does not need much personal experience delivering babies to discuss the FACT that you are failing to report rather obvious child abuse - even as you laudably try to expose it by causing it temporarily - reversibly you say... and even less experience and ability in rational analysis of the English language, particularly in relation to the meaning of statements in relation to the context of the whole. This disability is pronounced in Attention Deficit Disorder in which the meaning of one statement is not correlated with prior or subsequent statements. ##### Pejoration noted. I do not know whether my cord was clamped immediately. , The "finger-thumb" occlusion of the cord for 15 - 30 seconds is harmless because it is REVERSIBLE. ##### I suppose that strangling a child for 15 - 30 seconds is also reversible - but that does not mean it is not child abuse. If you have evidence for your claim that pinching the cord between thumb and finger to produce fetal [neonatal?] heart rate deceleration "indicating asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage" is of no significance - please provide it. On release of the pressure, the child returns rapidly to normal. ##### Intentionally producing fetal [neonatal?] heart rate deceleration "indicating asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage" may or may not leave the child "normal." It occurs naturally (sometimes more severely) in many deliveries when the cord is around the neck. ##### Yes. Accidents do happen - accidents occur naturally. But we do not CAUSE temporary asphyxia accidents "to EDUCATE" as you say. The correct treatment is to release the cord from around the neck; the wrong treatment is to clamp and cut it -- THIS IS NOT REVERSIBLE. The purpose of the "finger-thumb" procedure is to EDUCATE doctors and midwives in correct cord management. ##### TRANSLATED: You propose TEMPORARILY producing indicators of "asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage" (child abuse) to expose *more serious* child abuse - PERMANENTLY producing indicators of "asphyxia sufficient to cause brain damage" - gotcha. This purpose and meaning is apparent in my following paragraphs that state why the "finger-thumb" procedure is harmless and why clamping and cutting the cord is harmful and may produce brain damage such as attention deficit disorder. ##### George, for argument's sake, let us say that TEMPORARILY producing indications of "asphyxia sufficent to cause brain damage" is not child abuse - and only PERMANENTLY doing so *is* child abuse. WHY AREN'T YOU REPORTING?! To correct the situation, I prefer educational methods rather than calling the sheriff, as I do not know when the sheriff's cord was clamped. ##### George, what is best for babies is the preference. Besides, you can do BOTH. I believe 100% of babies would want you doing both... One does not - as you aver - have to determine whether the sheriff was abused before reporting suspected child abuse to him. I hope you do not have difficulty understanding and correlating these three paragraphs. Dr. G. M. Morley |
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