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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
nimue wrote:
Listen, Raving Beauty, get the help you need. Okay? 1) A raving beauty, I am NOT. 2) I received considerably more than a dozen years of the finest education that Canada has to offer. 3) I did NOT go to teacher's college, as did many; of who, I am aquainted. 4) I am not an American citizen. So you are a teacher, eh? Figures ... |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
nimue wrote: Why ask me a question when you are already providing the answer, oh sock puppet? I (IP 72.61.137.179 ) am not "Raving Beauty" (IP 76.0.225.11 ). Regardless of being the ' same ' or different; we both post to Usenet via Google which displays our IP addresses in it's header information. Listen, Raving Beauty, get the help you need. Okay? "Raving Beauty" claims that you are a 'vindictive narcissistic witch/wizard'. I happen to disagree with her. At best, you are middling. At worst, you are mediocre. |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
toto wrote:
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:41:22 -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: "Linda Gore" wrote: There is NO chance that persons who had to sacrifice EVERYTHING, most especially their conscience and morals, just to get their degrees, then get and keep their teaching license are not going to make damn sure their students are forced to make the same damn sacrifices. Feel free to not play the game. Feel free to starve. Rarely will someone pay you for doing what you want instead of what they want. That's life. Live with it. Except that many of the people who don't play the game, make their own rules, start their own businesses and do very well. But they do play the game - a different game - it's just that it is their customers and not their teachers that are "always right". Admittedly, not everyone can manage this, but we should be creating more opportunities for people to follow their true dreams, imo. While I have some sympathy, the public schools are set up to train kids the way the public wants them to be trained. People have the freedom to refuse public education, but the public has the right to decide what sorts of education that they will pay for (subject to constitutional restrictions) lojbab |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
Raving wrote:
nimue wrote: Listen, Raving Beauty, get the help you need. Okay? 1) A raving beauty, I am NOT. 2) I received considerably more than a dozen years of the finest education that Canada has to offer. No, I meant psychiatric help. 3) I did NOT go to teacher's college, Neither did I. So what? as did many; of who, I am aquainted. 4) I am not an American citizen. So? So you are a teacher, eh? Uh, yeah, I made that clear from the gate. Figures ... God, just go get some help. -- nimue "As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than I have read." Betty Bowers English is our friend. We don't have to fight it. Oprah |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
Raving wrote:
nimue wrote: Why ask me a question when you are already providing the answer, oh sock puppet? I (IP 72.61.137.179 ) am not "Raving Beauty" (IP 76.0.225.11 ). Regardless of being the ' same ' or different; we both post to Usenet via Google which displays our IP addresses in it's header information. Listen, Raving Beauty, get the help you need. Okay? "Raving Beauty" claims that you are a 'vindictive narcissistic witch/wizard'. I happen to disagree with her. At best, you are middling. At worst, you are mediocre. Uh, RB just called me a vindictive narcissistic witch/wizard. She never said if I was any good at it or not. You seem to think she did, hence the response you doubtless thought was clever. It just shows you need to work on your reading comp. -- nimue "As an unwavering Republican, I have quite naturally burned more books than I have read." Betty Bowers English is our friend. We don't have to fight it. Oprah |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
nimue wrote:
Raving Beauty wrote: nimue wrote: toto wrote: I am a teacher and I can tell you that kids who get As usually do so because they love learning. Bull****. Getting straight A's necessitates one PLAY THE GAME What game? Doing all your homework? --------------------- Yes, in part. Doing homework you already know how to do is not always useful. Drill can be useful, but the student can determine this. And knowing how to do the problems is evidenced by testing, not homework. Writing all your essays? ----------------------- Not always important. Some assigned topics are such that particular students may simply have nothing to say about them. Getting an A average on tests and quizzes? Completing all your projects? Showing up to class every day? That is what you are graded on. ---------------------- And that is NOT knowledge or skill. That is not a game -- that is school. ------------------------ And school is a GAME. It always has been. A) Feed teachers demand for narcissistic supply I am not sure what you mean by that, and it's not the missing apostrophe that is throwing me; it's the sentence structure. That sentence says that teachers demand a narcissistic supply -- but of what? I suspect you mean that students must appeal to the teacher's narcissism by offering praise and flattery. Is that what you mean? If you want to be an effective communicator, you have to write clearly. -------------------------------- We all know how to SUCK UP. Quit pretending. And those who wish to pretend that some courses of study are immune to this must be dense. B) Appease teachers demand for form over substance Wow, you think teachers are narcissistic and that there is something wrong with demanding "form." Do you mean good grammar? Why is there this myth that anything that is grammatically correct is necessarily shallow? -------------------------- It doesn't have to be, but often it is. AND it's not REAL. The classics of world literature show how wrong that idea is. --------------------------- SOME or MANY "classics" are classist! Classicality varies with relevance by economic and social class. It's ridiculous. It's a lie people who cannot express themselves coherently tell themselves. ----------------- Sometimes, but it is nonetheless true most often. A grammatical wreck may have substance, but that substance may be lost because the sentences make no sense. --------------------- Sometimes, but other times it is simply that a different "grammar" is being properly used! C) Always subordinate the truth to being an A student Oh, so A students have to lie. According to you, there is no way to tell the truth and be a A student. You have a pretty low opinion of teachers and A students. You think that A students lie to and flatter teachers (who are dumb enough to fall for it) and that nothing these A students write has any meaning. Sure. etc. -------------------------------- The hatred of teachers for what they have perpetrated cannot be minimized or argued out of existence by the pretense that lots of people just don't want to learn because it's HAAAARD! Teachers are hated for good reasons. If you say can't think of any you're just pretending. Steve |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
"Dave L. Renfro" wrote in message ups.com... Raving Beauty wrote (in part): I PLAYED THE GAME long enough to get straight A's to graduate HS with honors, and gain admission and graduate with honors from a first rate University, --then, gain admission to an exclusive grad school, then, obtain my professional credentials, etc. I don't understand how making vague and non-specific claims about your background is supposed to carry any weight. I can appreciate you not wanting your personal information archived in usenet posts for anyone to see, now or several years from now. However, you should realize that in this situation all we have to go on is what you post. And frankly, your posts do not provide very much support for the statements you made above. The only reason I'm bothering to say this is because I was reading this thread and, all of a sudden, you jumped on nimue's back for no reason at all. Thank you for proving my point that getting straight A's necessitates playing the game! 1) Feeding teachers demand for narcisistic supply ROFLMOA! |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
"Raving" wrote in message oups.com... Here is a further example of RB's artisanship: http://tinyurl.com/rncch She never says if they were any good at it or not. ... Err...my continued presence says it all. Regards, Indomitable :-) |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
"nimue" wrote in message ... Dave L. Renfro wrote: Raving Beauty wrote (in part): I PLAYED THE GAME long enough to get straight A's to graduate HS with honors, and gain admission and graduate with honors from a first rate University, --then, gain admission to an exclusive grad school, then, obtain my professional credentials, etc. I don't understand how making vague and non-specific claims about your background is supposed to carry any weight. I can appreciate you not wanting your personal information archived in usenet posts for anyone to see, now or several years from now. However, you should realize that in this situation all we have to go on is what you post. And frankly, your posts do not provide very much support for the statements you made above. The only reason I'm bothering to say this is because I was reading this thread and, all of a sudden, you jumped on nimue's back for no reason at all. Thanks. Man, this ng is incredible! I have never been so supported in my life. Subordinating the truth to wishful thinking is ENABLING ---not support. |
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Seeking straight A's, parents push for pills
"Bob LeChevalier" wrote in message ... toto wrote: On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:41:22 -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: "Linda Gore" wrote: There is NO chance that persons who had to sacrifice EVERYTHING, most especially their conscience and morals, just to get their degrees, then get and keep their teaching license are not going to make damn sure their students are forced to make the same damn sacrifices. Feel free to not play the game. Feel free to starve. Rarely will someone pay you for doing what you want instead of what they want. That's life. Live with it. Except that many of the people who don't play the game, make their own rules, start their own businesses and do very well. But they do play the game - a different game - it's just that it is their customers and not their teachers that are "always right". Admittedly, not everyone can manage this, but we should be creating more opportunities for people to follow their true dreams, imo. While I have some sympathy, the public schools are set up to train kids the way the public wants them to be trained. so why pretend you are teachers, when any teaching that takes place is incidental to the real objective: breaking children. |
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