![]() |
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Another "yeah..."...
Bob Whiteside wrote: "Mel Gamble" wrote in message ... Yeah, the website mentions Policy Studies... Hell, they're not even oregun estimates - they say right there in black and grey that the economic data is national so there is no basis for adjustment for interstate cases.... Don't the Federal guidelines say something about the results being relevant for the particular area??? Seems like the cost of housing in certain areas (CA, Seattle, etc.) would overly-inflate the results for most of oregun. That's why the state hired ECONorthwest to prepare their analysis of the economic data. They came up with three very interesting recommendations. 1. The cost of raising children in Oregon must be about the same as the rest of the counry because Oregon's median household income and per capita incomes are within 5 percentage points of the national averages. Of course, this assumption does not take into account the divorce rate in Oregon is at or near the highest in the nation so the incomes in statewide averages do not accurately reflect what actually goes on for divorces/separated/never married family household situations. 2. The exisitng "simple methods of adjusting guidelines" should account for differences in incomes and cost of living. Have you ever tried to get a judge to vary from the guidelines using the "simple method" of viewing the guidelines as guidelines based on assumptions and not de facto law? This comment by ECONorthwest is just plain BS. 3. The department should review Oregon and US statisics using more recent data. This is a shot at the fact the PSI guideline model process is based on data from the last 2-3 decades and does not reflect current conditions. What they implied was the recent economic downturn was not being considered and the more severe impact on Oregon versus the national impact was being ignored. Despite what I personally consider three significant criticisms of the process, this report was treated as supporting the PSI recommendations and their underlying economic data. I read the recommendations from ECONorthwest as critical comments rather than approval comments. Of course the flaw in the process is the law only requires the local state analysis to be completed. The law does not say the local analysis needs to agree with PSI and, if not, force re-evaluation of the proposed guidelines to meet local state conditions. Like those "public input" meetings last fall - I doubt if anybody ever put those tapes in "play" mode after the meetings. Looks good to "solicit public input" and hold town-halls...until you realize it's all for show and the public employees running the thing aren't thinking about anything more earth-shatterring than next-year's raise. At least it looks like I may have gotten my night job to carry me through until I can go self-employed in a mostly-cash business I've been thinking about for a while. But I'm still burning over that 43%... Means they're gonna get you coming AND going....I'm still applying salve to the spot where they slipped that 43% increase in..... As I wrote to one of our local talk-show hosts, did you notice that the picture on the front of the voters pamphlet for measure 30 is obviously a picture of a couple of state employees (King K's Royal Guard???) on horseback about to trample an innocent citizen? To my way of thinking, they couldn't have picked a more Fruedian (sp?) print : ) You are on the right track, but the facts need to be clarified. The two guys on the horses are Lewis and Clark. The woman is Sacagawea, an Indian princess who Lewis and Clark rescued from her kidnappers. So the symbolism is the state's long standing desire to help women in distress and rescue them from adversity - you know just like our family law and CS systems operate. It should have been a man standing their, trying to protect himself and his child from the gestapo... Thanks for your usual insight into what the state has been up to... : ) Mel Gamble |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
learning to talk wrong | Marie | Twins & Triplets | 6 | July 19th 04 08:57 PM |
ICAN and The Pink Kit: a dark side (Wintergreen is wrong) | Todd Gastaldo | Pregnancy | 0 | January 30th 04 09:45 PM |
Judge wrong to split teen & family teen wanted out FW: | Fern5827 | Spanking | 0 | January 18th 04 04:07 PM |