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Joe the Plumber was a hoax



 
 
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Old November 22nd 08, 07:12 PM posted to alt.child-support
Kenneth S.[_2_]
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Default Joe the Plumber was a hoax

"U.S." completely fails to understand the point here.

" If you were competent, you'd never father a child you
weren't prepared to raise," she says. But what confronts the
overwhelming majority of fathers in the U.S. is the prospect of paying
large amounts of CS money to their exes, supposedly for the children,
but in reality these payments (tax-free to the recipient mothers) can
be spent on anything the mothers want. Fathers don't have the option
of raising their children.

Child custody arrangements are grotesquely distorted against
men. The glass ceiling on paternal custody remains firmly in place.

Many men are perfectly willing to raise their children. What
they don't want to to do is to pay huge sums of "child support" money
to the women who, by expelling these men from their families, made
unilateral decisions to create fatherless families. A similar logic
applies to unmarried mothers, who had rights of post-conception
reproductive choice that are denied to men.

If the objective is to protect and encourage two-parent
families, one good way of doing so would be to change custody
arrangements, so that mothers no longer had a virtual guarantee of
sole custody. The indications are that states that have adopted a
presumption of joint physical and legal custody have seen a drop in
their divorce rates.

Those who are interested in the link between guaranteed
maternal custody and filing for divorce should look at:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...ract_id=713110.




On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:50:22 -0500, * US * wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:53:29 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

...stupid?


If you can't manage to figure out how and when
to use birth control, you're not bright.

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:11:04 -0800, "DB" wrote:

...my arrearages ...


Too bad you're too stupid to learn how to use a condom.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:22:50 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

It cracks me up


Yes, you're all cracked up. You're cracked up to be too
stupid to manage your own sexuality, if any.

... the
use of condoms


They're all too big for you, aren't they.

insure [sic] that a man will not ...


You can ensure that you won't be a father
if you're not totally idiotic.



On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:56:17 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Dude, you are absolutely ...


Irrelevant.

Can't you tell?

If you were competent, you'd never father
a child you weren't prepared to raise.

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Old November 23rd 08, 04:15 PM posted to alt.child-support
animal02
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Posts: 1
Default Joe the Plumber was a hoax

Kenneth S. wrote:
"U.S." completely fails to understand the point here.



"us" is simply a troll who cuts and pastes snippets of posts in a lame
attempt to make a point. He has been ignored on so many other NG's that
he now has ended up here.


" If you were competent, you'd never father a child you
weren't prepared to raise," she says. But what confronts the
overwhelming majority of fathers in the U.S. is the prospect of paying
large amounts of CS money to their exes, supposedly for the children,
but in reality these payments (tax-free to the recipient mothers) can
be spent on anything the mothers want. Fathers don't have the option
of raising their children.

Child custody arrangements are grotesquely distorted against
men. The glass ceiling on paternal custody remains firmly in place.

Many men are perfectly willing to raise their children. What
they don't want to to do is to pay huge sums of "child support" money
to the women who, by expelling these men from their families, made
unilateral decisions to create fatherless families. A similar logic
applies to unmarried mothers, who had rights of post-conception
reproductive choice that are denied to men.

If the objective is to protect and encourage two-parent
families, one good way of doing so would be to change custody
arrangements, so that mothers no longer had a virtual guarantee of
sole custody. The indications are that states that have adopted a
presumption of joint physical and legal custody have seen a drop in
their divorce rates.

Those who are interested in the link between guaranteed
maternal custody and filing for divorce should look at:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...ract_id=713110.




On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:50:22 -0500, * US * wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:53:29 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

...stupid?

If you can't manage to figure out how and when
to use birth control, you're not bright.

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:11:04 -0800, "DB" wrote:

...my arrearages ...

Too bad you're too stupid to learn how to use a condom.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:22:50 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

It cracks me up

Yes, you're all cracked up. You're cracked up to be too
stupid to manage your own sexuality, if any.

... the
use of condoms

They're all too big for you, aren't they.

insure [sic] that a man will not ...

You can ensure that you won't be a father
if you're not totally idiotic.



On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:56:17 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Dude, you are absolutely ...

Irrelevant.

Can't you tell?

If you were competent, you'd never father
a child you weren't prepared to raise.

 




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